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Looking at the one review of the NH-D15 I'd say the Phanteks is my cooler of choice. Hardly any difference between the two and the TC-14PE is much cheaper.
I agree.

Hmm, so doyll, the Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power at $30 less is not worthy of a recommendation ?
    
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Looking at the one review of the NH-D15 I'd say the Phanteks is my cooler of choice. Hardly any difference between the two and the TC-14PE is much cheaper.
I agree.

Hmm, so doyll, the Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power at $30 less is not worthy of a recommendation ?
doh.gif Such a short thread and you still don't get it. buttkick.gif
It's all up there in the 4th post. biggrin.gif
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doh.gif Such a short thread and you still don't get it. buttkick.gif
It's all up there in the 4th post. biggrin.gif
I get it doyll, the Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power has lower temps and it costs $30 less, So why the endorsement of the Phanteks in the 8th post ?

Unless Im so dense Im missing something, heh .

Also,Im just a shopper at this point,and may be for a while, and not a user of the True Spirit 140 Power .
Edited by cpmee - 4/16/14 at 1:43pm
    
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Fifth post in thread.

As I understand his post, Liranan cannot get the TRUE Spirit 140 Power.
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I get it doyll, the Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power has lower temps and it costs $30 less, So why the endorsement of the Phanteks in the 8th post ?

Unless Im so dense Im missing something, heh .

Also,Im just a shopper at this point,and may be for a while, and not a user of the True Spirit 140 Power .

As Doyl said, I can't get the TRUE 140 Power so there's no use even looking at it. The market in China has shifted towards AIO's and when it comes to coolers mediocrity such as TT and Deep Cool are easy to get but quality coolers such as the TC-14PE, SB-E, this new D15 and the beautiful True Spirit 140 Power are really hard to get. I found two etailers selling the TC-14PE and SB-E. None selling the D14, I explained this already.
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I think DeepCool (AKA Alpenfohn) make some very good coolers. The DeepCool Gamer Storm Assassin (AKA Alpenfohn K2 is almost as good as PH-TC14PE.
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/alpenfoehn_k2_cpu_cooler_revisited,8.html

DeepCool Neptwin is also good
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gamer_storm_lucifer/4.htm
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I think DeepCool (AKA Alpenfohn) make some very good coolers. The DeepCool Gamer Storm Assassin (AKA Alpenfohn K2 is almost as good as PH-TC14PE.
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/alpenfoehn_k2_cpu_cooler_revisited,8.html

DeepCool Neptwin is also good
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/gamer_storm_lucifer/4.htm

Can't get either in China.

I found the True 140 Power online but no idea how to get it as it's on some really obscure website. Need to ask my friends to see if it is available at all, if it is it'd be fantastic.

Edit: found the K2 and Lucifer. The K2 is more expensive than the TC-14PE and the Lucifer doesn't look as good but slightly cheaper.
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Lucifer is not as good as K2 and K2 is not quite as good as 14PE

Phanteks is the best. I have two of them. wink.gif .Maybe one of the latest releases will beat it. What fans are on the top coolers makes more difference than which cooler it is. Most testers do not do a test with same fan on all coolers so it's very hard to know.

Cryorig R1 Ultimate and R1 Universal are very good
Akasa Medusa is also a good cooler, but have not tried / tested one.

Here is a list of top cooler sand their size.
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    Cooler            Heatpipes     Size W/O Fans                     Size W/Fans                           RAM Clearance
Akasa Medusa         8x 6mm pipes  144x129.5x163mm                  w/140mm & 120mm PWM fans                49.6mm*
Cryorig R1 Ultimate  7x 6mm pipes  140x142.4x168.3mm                w/XF140(140x25) fans                    40mm*   *2*
Cryorig R1 Universal 7x 6mm pipes  140x130x168.3mm                  w/1x XT140(13mm) & 1- SF140(25mm) fans  40mm*   *2*
K2 / Assassin        8x 6mm pipes  140x128x158mm 146x154x160mm      w/120mm & 140mm PWM fans                43.2mm*
Dark Rock Pro 2      7x 6mm pipes  138x124x166mm 138x149x166mm      w/120mm & 135mm PWM fans
NH-D14               6x 6mm pipes  140x130x160mm 140x158x160mm      w/120mm & 140mm fans                    44mm*
NH-U14S              6x 6mm pipes  150x52x165mm                     plus fans base offset 2mm bk            41mm
NH-D15               6x 6mm pipes  150x136x165mm 150x161x165mm      w/2x 140mm fans                                 *1*
PH-TC14PE            5x 8mm pipes  140x159x171mm                    w/2x 140mm fans, PWM adaptor            40-45mm*
Megahalem            6x 6mm pipes  130x74x158.7mm                   plus fans                               34.45mm*
SS HE01              6x 6mm pipes  140x119x160mm                    w/140x38mm PWM fan                      42mm*
Archon SB-E          8x 6mm pipes  155x53.6x170.2mm                 plus fans                               34.45mm*
Silver Arrow         4x 8mm pipes  147x123x163mm 151x149x168mm      w/2x 140mm Fans                         40.87mm*
SA SB-E              8x 6mm pipes  155x105x164mm 170x130x170mm      w/140mm & 150mm PWM fans                31.9/39/46mm**
SA SB-E Extreme      8x 6mm pipes  155x105x164mm 155x130x165mm      w/fans narrower with 140mm fan vs 150mm 31.9/39/46mm**
SA IB-E              8x 6mm pipes  154.6x103x164mm 154x130x164mm*** w/2x 140mm 1300rpm fans                 41.95mm*
SA IB-E Extreme      8x 6mm pipes  154.6x103x164mm 154x130x164mm*** w/2x 140mm 2500rpm fans                 41.95mm*
TRUE Sp 140 Power    6x 8mm pipes  155x53.4x170mm                   plus fan                                44.3mm*

*cooler base to bottom fin. (add 8mm for motherboard to bottom fin.)
**fins are at 3 different levels 
*** base is off-center 9.5mm for better PCI-E slot clearance
*1* recessed lower fins, the NH-D15 provide 64mm RAM clearance
*2* offest back 19mm for better RAM clearance; 38mm CPU center to front + fan

K2, D14 & HE01 are about same size cooler. 
140mm fans can be problematic with ram clearance. 
All can interfere with PCI-e slots 1 & 2
SA SB-E is widest by 15mm. 170mm with TY-150 fan in middle. TY-150 is 169x151mm
SA SB-E Extreme is 155mm wide with TY-143 fan in middle. TY-14x fans are 151x140mm. 

TheLab cooler thermal testing database is a good example of how many coolers perform a lower wattage compared to high wattage when overclocked. At 117w the difference is about 5-6c except for CLC and poorest performers at bottom of chart, but at 345w the difference is 15-16c. Heat makes the difference.
http://www.thelab.gr/heatsinks-coolers-watercooling-reviews/cpu-cooler-review-database-89014.html
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None selling the D14, I explained this already.

Oh, sorry. redface.gif
    
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Pure Epic Win Post!



The TC-14PE is so much better than this terrible H70 I have. I replaced the old TRUE Copper I had with this H70 and I think the TRUE Copper was a better cooler, just enormous and at 2KG I was always worried about moving my case. Now I can't wait for that beauty to arrive but will probably have to wait a week sad-smiley-002.gif

Looking at the numbers I'm pretty amazed as to how good these coolers are. Even an 8320 at 4.5 can be cooled well by these things and I'm only looking at getting an FX6300 so I should be set for years to come as I don't intend to upgrade until DDR4 becomes affordable.
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Oh, sorry. redface.gif

It's fine, mate. It's really irritating how high end cooling is now mostly AIO's and high end air coolers have almost become extinct.
Edited by Liranan - 4/17/14 at 10:19am
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