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To be blunt, amd has nothing as fast as the 4770k, if you want the fastest you can get, the 4770k is it, besides Intel's 6 cores
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Thanks for the help... I will see when I get to the store.. Thinking Asus as it has the bells and whistles and I can finally get rid of the Wireless card..

As for the loop.. I dont know anything about the Glacer as I am sure its a new product.. I did try the Corsair H100 back in the day when I folded and the full loop was the way to go.. If you do plan on getting your card on the loop too I would say the investment is worth it for the full loop.. However we are on the edge of when new waterblocks may be needed for CPUs.. With Broadwell and Skylake.. So it depends on your upgrade cycle.. Rad never go bad.. same with pumps.. so they will always be good investments.

Hey I just want to throw this out there: I have had nothing but problems with high end Asus boards. I had to RMA 2 Sabertooth 990fx 2.0's. Their mid- low end boards are fine its just the good stuff that always gave me issues. Baffling.
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The Glacer 240L is a semi-DIY loop, an expandable loop, that's a collaboration between Swiftech (when the H220 got blocked by Asetek) and Cooler Master. It's basically a step between a full custom loop and an AIO LCS like the H100. I think you're right, since I'd like to get my R9 290 into the loop (and eventually two of them!) I might as well just go custom right off the bat. I've got a fairly decent EK-centric loop parted out on Performance PCs website that's CPU only to start with and is about $400. Here's the loop in case you're interested...


Looks pretty solid! Whats the Glacer in price?


In regards to the Asus and their high end board comment.. Ive been hearing that a lot honestly thats why Gigabyte was in the mix as an option..

I may need to rethink my plans.. Only problem is that the board is Red and my lights are all blue.. Unless I less my Alchemy Strips..

Think these would still hold their value sold used?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=72_107_1246_836&products_id=32255
Edited by JMattes - 4/14/14 at 9:12am
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Looks pretty solid! Whats the Glacer in price?

I'm close to a Microcenter as well so I can get it there for $124.99 and there's a $10 MIR.
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Hey I just want to throw this out there: I have had nothing but problems with high end Asus boards. I had to RMA 2 Sabertooth 990fx 2.0's. Their mid- low end boards are fine its just the good stuff that always gave me issues. Baffling.

That may be a great excuse to grab up a Giga board. Like I said, I have the 990FXA-UD5 and I love it, really solid board! That Z87 Giga board you pointed out before, JMattes, looks like a solid choice!
Edited by LazarusIV - 4/14/14 at 9:13am
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The 9590 and the i7 4960x seemingly are par.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/170023-amd-vs-intel-the-ultimate-gaming-showdown-5ghz-fx-9590-vs-i7-4960x/2

Not sure what the clock on the i7 is but I can promise the AMD FX 9590 is much cheaper.
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At stock speed
single threading
i7 4770k will win.
Multi threading
FX-9590 will

Now oc the i7 4770k around 4.4ghz and i7 4770k will kill the FX-9590.

EDIT
I went from a FX-8320 @ 4.9ghz to a i5 4670k 4.4ghz. i5 4670k is a non hyper thread quad core.
Single threading
i5 wins
Multi threading
FX-8320 barely wins

Now add the hyper thread then i7 4770k will win both.
Edited by dixson01974 - 4/14/14 at 5:08pm
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At stock speed
single threading
i7 4770k will win.
Multi threading
FX-9590 will

Now oc the i7 4770k around 4.4ghz and i7 4770k will kill the FX-9590.

EDIT
I went from a FX-8320 @ 4.9ghz to a i5 4670k 4.4ghz. i5 4670k is a non hyper thread quad core.
Single threading
i5 wins
Multi threading
FX-8320 barely wins

Now add the hyper thread then i7 4770k will win both.
Thing is, not everyone sits at their PC and does benchmarks all day like a nerd. As far as games are concerned, the 8350 can do what the 4670k can for for 50 dollars less. If you wanna sit around running single core programs in 2014 then sure. Otherwise games that use 4cores will be fine on both. If you already have any second gen or later intel core there is no reason to buy anything as even the 2600k works fine.
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Thing is, not everyone sits at their PC and does benchmarks all day like a nerd. As far as games are concerned, the 8350 can do what the 4670k can for for 50 dollars less. If you wanna sit around running single core programs in 2014 then sure. Otherwise games that use 4cores will be fine on both. If you already have any second gen or later intel core there is no reason to buy anything as even the 2600k works fine.
That is odd.
With gpu intensive games they are about the same in performance.
With cpu intensive games they are not about the same. Intel kills AMD.

EDIT
AMD FX-9590 bundles
Asus Sathertooth is $424.98.
ASRock 990FX Extreme9 $409.98

Intel i7 4770k bundles
Asus ASUS Z87 Pro is $424.98
GA-Z87X-UD4H is $399.98
Look at the top 2 high end bundle, so no brainer. Get the i7 4770k.
Edited by dixson01974 - 4/15/14 at 2:23am
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Thing is, not everyone sits at their PC and does benchmarks all day like a nerd. As far as games are concerned, the 8350 can do what the 4670k can for for 50 dollars less. If you wanna sit around running single core programs in 2014 then sure. Otherwise games that use 4cores will be fine on both. If you already have any second gen or later intel core there is no reason to buy anything as even the 2600k works fine.
That is odd.
With gpu intensive games they are about the same in performance.
With cpu intensive games they are not about the same. Intel kills AMD.

EDIT
AMD FX-9590 bundles
Asus Sathertooth is $424.98.
ASRock 990FX Extreme9 $409.98

Intel i7 4770k bundles
Asus ASUS Z87 Pro is $424.98
GA-Z87X-UD4H is $399.98
Look at the top 2 high end bundle, so no brainer. Get the i7 4770k.
What CPU intensive games are you playing? BF4 hits both pretty hard and I get 120fps on ultra preset with Mantle and 80-90fps with DX11. I don't think many games these days are CPU intensive anymore. And when it comes to it the difference tends to be 10-20fps with the average being over 60fps. Now I'm not crazy so all I care about is getting a solid 60fps. If AMD gets 80 - 90 and intel gets 90 - 100 then it doesn't matter so AMD is plenty of performance.

Also provide links of these deals. If its places like Microcenter or Frys they sometimes require instore pickup and not everyone lives near one.
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There's nothing from AMD that can match a 4770K, much less an overclocked 4770K. That's the blunt truth.


The FX-9590 is no different from an FX-8320 with a very high factory overclock. It does manage to get close to a stock 4770K due to the high factory OC, but you should be aware that it will have almost no overclocking headroom since it's already running at near-max clocks out of the box.


If you're okay with that, go for it. Otherwise, your money would be better spent getting a 4770K. Since you stated that you have a Microcenter nearby, a 4770K + motherboard bundle would be a no-brainer, IMO. But if you want to be different and are okay with the slower performance, higher power consumption, and lack of overclocking headroom, get the FX-9590.


Also, AM3+ is a dead socket. Get an FX now, and you will have to change CPU and motherboard when you upgrade, and that is assuming AMD continues to make FX CPUs (which may or may not be the case).
Edited by 996gt2 - 4/15/14 at 12:33pm
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