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Thing is, not everyone sits at their PC and does benchmarks all day like a nerd. As far as games are concerned, the 8350 can do what the 4670k can for for 50 dollars less. If you wanna sit around running single core programs in 2014 then sure. Otherwise games that use 4cores will be fine on both. If you already have any second gen or later intel core there is no reason to buy anything as even the 2600k works fine.
That is odd.
With gpu intensive games they are about the same in performance.
With cpu intensive games they are not about the same. Intel kills AMD.

EDIT
AMD FX-9590 bundles
Asus Sathertooth is $424.98.
ASRock 990FX Extreme9 $409.98

Intel i7 4770k bundles
Asus ASUS Z87 Pro is $424.98
GA-Z87X-UD4H is $399.98
Look at the top 2 high end bundle, so no brainer. Get the i7 4770k.
What CPU intensive games are you playing? BF4 hits both pretty hard and I get 120fps on ultra preset with Mantle and 80-90fps with DX11. I don't think many games these days are CPU intensive anymore. And when it comes to it the difference tends to be 10-20fps with the average being over 60fps. Now I'm not crazy so all I care about is getting a solid 60fps. If AMD gets 80 - 90 and intel gets 90 - 100 then it doesn't matter so AMD is plenty of performance.

Also provide links of these deals. If its places like Microcenter or Frys they sometimes require instore pickup and not everyone lives near one.
This is from Microcenter Bundles, so pick-up only.
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That is odd.
With gpu intensive games they are about the same in performance.
With cpu intensive games they are not about the same. Intel kills AMD.

EDIT
AMD FX-9590 bundles
Asus Sathertooth is $424.98.
ASRock 990FX Extreme9 $409.98

Intel i7 4770k bundles
Asus ASUS Z87 Pro is $424.98
GA-Z87X-UD4H is $399.98
Look at the top 2 high end bundle, so no brainer. Get the i7 4770k.


I would think you could easily get a 8350 coupled with a Sabertooth. Overclock it a crap ton and all for about $325. Leaving you about $100 more to put into a strong video card. An 8320 would save you even more coin.
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Thing is, not everyone sits at their PC and does benchmarks all day like a nerd. As far as games are concerned, the 8350 can do what the 4670k can for for 50 dollars less. If you wanna sit around running single core programs in 2014 then sure. Otherwise games that use 4cores will be fine on both. If you already have any second gen or later intel core there is no reason to buy anything as even the 2600k works fine.
That is odd.
With gpu intensive games they are about the same in performance.
With cpu intensive games they are not about the same. Intel kills AMD.

EDIT
AMD FX-9590 bundles
Asus Sathertooth is $424.98.
ASRock 990FX Extreme9 $409.98

Intel i7 4770k bundles
Asus ASUS Z87 Pro is $424.98
GA-Z87X-UD4H is $399.98
Look at the top 2 high end bundle, so no brainer. Get the i7 4770k.
What CPU intensive games are you playing? BF4 hits both pretty hard and I get 120fps on ultra preset with Mantle and 80-90fps with DX11. I don't think many games these days are CPU intensive anymore. And when it comes to it the difference tends to be 10-20fps with the average being over 60fps. Now I'm not crazy so all I care about is getting a solid 60fps. If AMD gets 80 - 90 and intel gets 90 - 100 then it doesn't matter so AMD is plenty of performance.

Also provide links of these deals. If its places like Microcenter or Frys they sometimes require instore pickup and not everyone lives near one.
This is from Microcenter Bundles, so pick-up only.

OP said in the first post that he was planning on going to Microcenter anyway, so that means he has one near him.
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I'm going to through out something radically different from what other are suggesting.

Go with FX 8320 and a decent motherboard, and put all the money you save towards a Korean PLS 1440p 27in monitor. I realize in total it'll be more expensive, but it makes a lot of sense.

By upping the resolution, you move the bottleneck more towards the GPU instead of the CPU, meaning that FX is actually a better choice. And you get a better monitor (and you can overclock the QNIX monitors off of ebay for 120hz 1440p 27in PLS amazingness).

I would much rather do something like that. In fact, it's sort of what I did. It's very much worth it, and whenever I see people bickering over 1080p CPU benchmarks I kind of giggle a little bit because I know the higher the resolution, the more important GPU becomes and the less important CPU becomes, and I saved money on my platform and was able to spend more money on a monitor.

I think monitors are highly under-rated by people. Who cares if you're getting 120fps on some 1080p TN panel that has color shift when you move your head? I'll take my 1440p and IPS monitor thank you very much.
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Well I have a waterblock for both AMD and Intel and a full loop so I would put some sort of OC on it.. Within the realm of it being safe for the components..

So 4770k is the way to go with a waterloop OC?

Isnt the AMD an 8 physical core CPU? So shouldnt that be better than the 4770k? Or am I mistaken?

I fight for amd all the time....But, that 9590 overclocked is going to pull two times the power of a 4770k. It's not a bad chip but amd 8 cores are hugely power hungry. That being said, you won't be able to tell the 4770 over the 9590 in games and most applications. Pick either and you will be happy.
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Thing is, not everyone sits at their PC and does benchmarks all day like a nerd. As far as games are concerned, the 8350 can do what the 4670k can for for 50 dollars less. If you wanna sit around running single core programs in 2014 then sure. Otherwise games that use 4cores will be fine on both. If you already have any second gen or later intel core there is no reason to buy anything as even the 2600k works fine.
That is odd.
With gpu intensive games they are about the same in performance.
With cpu intensive games they are not about the same. Intel kills AMD.

EDIT
AMD FX-9590 bundles
Asus Sathertooth is $424.98.
ASRock 990FX Extreme9 $409.98

Intel i7 4770k bundles
Asus ASUS Z87 Pro is $424.98
GA-Z87X-UD4H is $399.98
Look at the top 2 high end bundle, so no brainer. Get the i7 4770k.
What CPU intensive games are you playing? BF4 hits both pretty hard and I get 120fps on ultra preset with Mantle and 80-90fps with DX11. I don't think many games these days are CPU intensive anymore. And when it comes to it the difference tends to be 10-20fps with the average being over 60fps. Now I'm not crazy so all I care about is getting a solid 60fps. If AMD gets 80 - 90 and intel gets 90 - 100 then it doesn't matter so AMD is plenty of performance.

Also provide links of these deals. If its places like Microcenter or Frys they sometimes require instore pickup and not everyone lives near one.
This is from Microcenter Bundles, so pick-up only.

OP said in the first post that he was planning on going to Microcenter anyway, so that means he has one near him.
What I was getting at is it does not apply to everyone. For OP it does, otherwise it might not. What I was getting at was the deal is good, but not for everyone, thus AMD wins on price more times than others.
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What I was getting at is it does not apply to everyone. For OP it does, otherwise it might not. What I was getting at was the deal is good, but not for everyone, thus AMD wins on price more times than others.

I live in NY we now have 4 stores.. I consider myself lucky.. I think I will be going to pick up a 4770k and mobo.. Still on the fence with the mobo tho.. its between Asus and Gigabyte.. I think I would have better luck with Gigabyte but the red color scheme and the late of many of the bell and whistles do annoy me.. With Asus I run the risk of problems.. but have 30 days to return at Microcenter if there is a problem. Plus I will put a warranty on it for $20 for 2 years in case anything happens after 30 days..
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What I was getting at is it does not apply to everyone. For OP it does, otherwise it might not. What I was getting at was the deal is good, but not for everyone, thus AMD wins on price more times than others.

I live in NY we now have 4 stores.. I consider myself lucky.. I think I will be going to pick up a 4770k and mobo.. Still on the fence with the mobo tho.. its between Asus and Gigabyte.. I think I would have better luck with Gigabyte but the red color scheme and the late of many of the bell and whistles do annoy me.. With Asus I run the risk of problems.. but have 30 days to return at Microcenter if there is a problem. Plus I will put a warranty on it for $20 for 2 years in case anything happens after 30 days..

Between Asus and Gigabyte I'd go with Asus. I have yet to have a problem with an Asus mobo, and their customer support has been great for the 2 GPUs that I've had to RMA through them.

The 2 Gigabyte boards I've had both had issues. The P67 board I had suffered from voltage instability (limiting my OC), and the older P35 board I had got bricked on a BIOS update and needed RMA. Not sure if their RMA process is better now, but back then it took 3 weeks to get a replacement board through Gigabyte.

Tl; DR: Asus > Gigabyte IMHO
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Between Asus and Gigabyte I'd go with Asus. I have yet to have a problem with an Asus mobo, and their customer support has been great for the 2 GPUs that I've had to RMA through them.

The 2 Gigabyte boards I've had both had issues. The P67 board I had suffered from voltage instability (limiting my OC), and the older P35 board I had got bricked on a BIOS update and needed RMA. Not sure if their RMA process is better now, but back then it took 3 weeks to get a replacement board through Gigabyte.

Tl; DR: Asus > Gigabyte IMHO

I appreciate the recommendation. I am starting to think it's really hit or miss and luck of the draw.

I walked into Microcenter and ended up with the 4770k and a Gigabyte UD3H (Board came to $130)
http://www.microcenter.com/product/414782/GA-Z87X-UD3H_Socket_LGA_1150_ATX_Intel_Motherboard

Went with the UD3H over the 4H due to color scheme so I dont have to change everything to red..
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