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Posted a couple of seconds before I did tongue.gif

Anyway, nice to see these rolling out, though none of us probably really cares until we see the K models and new boards...

E: Also please do not quote entire articles.
Yup I want to see the K version
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Annnnnd still waiting on that K labeled Core i3...

Would be so epic and they have no idea how many would sell... xD
     
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i meant the overuse of epoxy affecting the performance of heat transfer through the TIM. lol Come on u know what i meant. So any news on a fix with that issue?
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I have i5 2500K + i5 2400, at this rate, I guess I am set to no CPU upgrade for the next decade lol

talk about Desktop market sales is shrinking, looks like Intel slacking has some hand in it.

Intel knows what the situation is and why there isn't an incentive to upgrade.
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I spoke briefly with Graff at CES about her plans, and she observed that high-end desktop processor sales had been fairly flat in recent years—but when she looked at the performance numbers, the reason was clear. Intel hasn't given enthusiasts much of a reason to upgrade since Sandy Bridge. The performance gains in Ivy Bridge and Haswell have been modest, and we've not seen core counts, cache sizes, or feature sets change dramatically, either.

Graff has adjusted Intel's silicon roadmap in order to address that problem, and today, she revealed some key aspects of Intel's desktop product plans for 2014.
http://techreport.com/review/26189/intel-to-renew-commitment-to-desktop-pcs-with-a-slew-of-new-cpus

And another interesting piece of info from that article:
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High-end desktops also broke records. Core i5 and i7 unit shipments reached an all-time high in 2013.

PC gaming market is growing nicely, even with people having no reason to upgrade intel is selling more i5s and i7s because gaming desktops are a growth market at the moment.
 
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Well, -K is unlocked, bumping the base clock +100Mhz on those is rather pointless.

they're supposed to have improved TIM (don't know if solder, wouldn't count on it) but if its a new stepping and has improved TIM, its entirely possible we see decent improvements in overclocking potential. Sure, +100MHz to the base clock is a waste for those already with a Haswell, but if the new chips can do 4.8-5+GHz without needing to delid, that would be pretty enticing for many I am sure.
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No you are wrong. It has been proven over and over. I myself and countless other keep telling and explaining but some of you continue to think it is the TIM. An air gap would DESTROY any TIM interface including solder. What is so hard to understand about that?

Not an air-gap but not good contact, try running a heatsink without the screws very tight and you'd get worse temperatures than tightly wound screws.
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Keep in mind that it isnt as easy to boost CPU performance as compared to a GPU where you can just slap on more streaming processors.

..That doesn't change the fact that your GPU will bottleneck you in gaming 9 times out of 10 unless you're running a slow CPU or low resolution.
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No you are wrong. It has been proven over and over. I myself and countless other keep telling and explaining but some of you continue to think it is the TIM. An air gap would DESTROY any TIM interface including solder. What is so hard to understand about that?

Did you read the post, and understand the context? I argue that the epoxy (GLUE) is too thick causing bad contact between the die and IHS. You seem to be very confused as you are aggressively agreeing with me... It isn't an air gap really, just bad contact.
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i meant the overuse of epoxy affecting the performance of heat transfer through the TIM. lol Come on u know what i meant. So any news on a fix with that issue?

The unevenly spread thick glue in some spots requires that the TIM layer be too thick between die and IHS, severely limiting its performance.

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they're supposed to have improved TIM (don't know if solder, wouldn't count on it) but if its a new stepping and has improved TIM, its entirely possible we see decent improvements in overclocking potential. Sure, +100MHz to the base clock is a waste for those already with a Haswell, but if the new chips can do 4.8-5+GHz without needing to delid, that would be pretty enticing for many I am sure.

It is the glue, not the TIM, afaik the TIM isn't all that bad, its not CLU but it isn't bad.

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Not an air-gap but not good contact, try running a heatsink without the screws very tight and you'd get worse temperatures than tightly wound screws.
..That doesn't change the fact that your GPU will bottleneck you in gaming 9 times out of 10 unless you're running a slow CPU or low resolution.

This man gets it.
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Anyone, anyone?


Ok i checked out asus sabertooth and they have bios 1707 listed.. I'm on 1801. and theres a new 1901 out today or yesterday...so this seems old?
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[edit] I stand corrected. If you want support for the new CPUs, use the BIOS updater Version v1.5.


  • BIOS updater for New 4th Gen Intel Core Processors
    Before using the new Intel 4th Gen Core processors, we suggest that you first download the BIOS updater for new Intel 4th Gen Core Processors and then update the BIOS using this tool.
  • 2014.02.21


https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_Z87/HelpDesk_Download/


The problem here is which processors does this allow you to use? Only the new unlocked Pentium? Devil's Canyon? The non-K processors? :-/
Edited by rene mauricio - 4/15/14 at 12:55pm
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