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I wonder if I will have to buy this before a Broadwell, since the 9-series will support broadwell as well. It's likely to get 20nm GPUs by October so if I buy something then, Intel should be also ready. I guess though it would sound ridiculous getting this and then for the same money getting a chip that is only ~10% faster or so, unless broadwell is surprising. In any case it seems best to wait for the GPUs up to a point in the Fall before acting.
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Originally Posted by Shadowarez View Post

I dont see any 8 core cpus on the list? Or are they releasing them next month?

This is for the Haswell Refresh processors for socket LGA1150. While the 8-core Haswell-E processors are for socket LGA2011-3, which is supposedly to be out in Q2.
    
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I wonder if I will have to buy this before a Broadwell, since the 9-series will support broadwell as well. It's likely to get 20nm GPUs by October so if I buy something then, Intel should be also ready. I guess though it would sound ridiculous getting this and then for the same money getting a chip that is only ~10% faster or so, unless broadwell is surprising. In any case it seems best to wait for the GPUs up to a point in the Fall before acting.

So will the Broadwell motherboards when released next year also support these 9 series CPU's? I'm on a i5 2500K and looking to possibly upgrade soon even though I probably can go with this 2500K for another year.
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So will the Broadwell motherboards when released next year also support these 9 series CPU's? I'm on a i5 2500K and looking to possibly upgrade soon even though I probably can go with this 2500K for another year.

edit: no idea if they will. I suspect not. But it's likely Intel 9 to be around for a while.
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Intel knows what the situation is and why there isn't an incentive to upgrade.
http://techreport.com/review/26189/intel-to-renew-commitment-to-desktop-pcs-with-a-slew-of-new-cpus

And another interesting piece of info from that article:
PC gaming market is growing nicely, even with people having no reason to upgrade intel is selling more i5s and i7s because gaming desktops are a growth market at the moment.
Intel simply just need to split the desktop CPU into 2 sections, the APU and the true CPU. Nobody buy a APU with K want that IGP come with it, I have not even use the IGP in my 2500K/2400

intel basically need to push 2011 socket downwards to be more "mainstream" with more CPU choices priced at $200. Now with only 3 CPU on the entire platform is a waste of money.

Some of us just want to buy a CPU only desktop, give us an option below $300, just do like how AMD position their CPU line up. APU + CPU serving diff market needs.
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Intel simply just need to split the desktop CPU into 2 sections, the APU and the true CPU. Nobody buy a APU with K want that IGP come with it, I have not even use the IGP in my 2500K/2400

intel basically need to push 2011 socket downwards to be more "mainstream" with more CPU choices priced at $200. Now with only 3 CPU on the entire platform is a waste of money.

Some of us just want to buy a CPU only desktop, give us an option below $300, just do like how AMD position their CPU line up. APU + CPU serving diff market needs.
Intel will never do that for two reasons. One, there is the HEDT platform and two they're not going to design a whole new SKU for that tiny portion of enthusiast market based on the laptop chips, which mainstream parts really are.
If you don't like it, you have HEDT option waiting for you. Otherwise there is nothing you can do and Intel won't do anything because that would cost them more than the end profit they would make.
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Can I use the 9 series for a 4770k chip is only the refresh and broadwell? (stupid question asked without research I know)
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Not an air-gap but not good contact, try running a heatsink without the screws very tight and you'd get worse temperatures than tightly wound screws.
..That doesn't change the fact that your GPU will bottleneck you in gaming 9 times out of 10 unless you're running a slow CPU or low resolution.



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Did you read the post, and understand the context? I argue that the epoxy (GLUE) is too thick causing bad contact between the die and IHS. You seem to be very confused as you are aggressively agreeing with me... It isn't an air gap really, just bad contact.
The unevenly spread thick glue in some spots requires that the TIM layer be too thick between die and IHS, severely limiting its performance.
It is the glue, not the TIM, afaik the TIM isn't all that bad, its not CLU but it isn't bad.
This man gets it.

Whatever you guys say. Didn't mean to come off aggressive but I will agree to disagree. smile.gif
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Can I use the 9 series for a 4770k chip is only the refresh and broadwell? (stupid question asked without research I know)

Long answer: They have announced that Haswell Refresh will have certain new unlocked functions in order to be compatible with Intel 9.

Short answer: No

Nerd answer: Maybe can be hacked
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So, can we expect more than 5% improvements from last gen? Ok, I'll make it fair, 3%?
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