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It took me a couple of months before I overclocked my i7 920, and now that I got an i7 4770K, I want to push it *a little bit* right of the bat. I only want to overclock it a bit, as for now I don't have the dough to buy a "good" heatsink: I intend to use the stock one. Now you could tell me right now that I shouldn't overclock with a stock fan, and in a way I'd be ok with that, I don't want to break anything hehe.

This is what I bought (and have yet to assemble, as I'm waiting for a ssd drive, coming in 2 days):

  • Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K
  • MSI Z87 MPOWER LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Extreme OC Flagship High Performance Triple CFX/ SLI Platform Intel Motherboard
  • G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR


Either I stay with the stock fan until I get a proper heatsink, or where do you think I could push this baby easily? Thanks for any advice.
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It took me a couple of months before I overclocked my i7 920, and now that I got an i7 4770K, I want to push it *a little bit* right of the bat. I only want to overclock it a bit, as for now I don't have the dough to buy a "good" heatsink: I intend to use the stock one. Now you could tell me right now that I shouldn't overclock with a stock fan, and in a way I'd be ok with that, I don't want to break anything hehe.

This is what I bought (and have yet to assemble, as I'm waiting for a ssd drive, coming in 2 days):

  • Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I74770K
  • MSI Z87 MPOWER LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Extreme OC Flagship High Performance Triple CFX/ SLI Platform Intel Motherboard
  • G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR


Either I stay with the stock fan until I get a proper heatsink, or where do you think I could push this baby easily? Thanks for any advice.
IMO you should be fine for any overclock that doesnt require much of a voltage increase. Going up to 4ghz should be easily possible w/ a minor voltage increase, and within the cooling capacity of the stock heatsink.

You may want to look into de-lidding though if you are going to push it hard, because these things can get toasty.
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I'm not sure what de-lidding means... you want me to remove the termal paste of the heatsink and put a special one?
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I'm not sure what de-lidding means... you want me to remove the termal paste of the heatsink and put a special one?
Delidding means physically removing the metal plate between the actual CPU and whatever heatsink you are using. It is a risky process, but if done correctly, will directly expose the CPU itself to whatever cooling solution you are using, and can easily result in a 20-30C drop in load temperatures, either allowing for cooler constant operation, or higher overclocks with the opened up headroom.
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Omg I'm not a risky guy, simple overclocking is risky to me lol! If it was done by someone that had experience in the matter, then maybe... but little-noob me won't do it. I'm not crazy for overclocking, but once I get a proper heatsink, I hope I'll be able to reach around 4.5Ghz (or is that impossible hehe).
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It seem kinda silly to buy the K cpu and m power mobo and not overclock. Just read the guides here and test.
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post #7 of 14
Don't overclock with the stock heat sink fan period. It is barely good enough for stock IMO.

You may get to 4.2-4.4 on a good air cooler, depending on your draw on the CPU lottery.

If you do well on the lottery, and find it may be stable at 4.5 GHz or above, you may want to delid or go water cooling.
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Honestly you wont get very far on the stock cooler, when ivy came out the stock cooler couldnt even keep the 3770k cool at stock settings using the common stress testers, and the 4770k is similar to that cpu. That said though, as long as temps stay good I dont see why not. If you dont plan on getting a good cooler for a couple months, a cooler master hyper 212 evo might be worth it for short term use since they are not too expensive and MUCH better than the stock cooler.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

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I do want to mention though, that as long as temps are good and voltage stays within the safe limit, your not going to hurt anything. Just look up the overclocking guides in the intel cpu part of the forum, and have fun thumb.gif
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I do have a "good" fan, my current Noctua NH-U9B SE2. The problem is it was exposed to alot of dust in my old rig, and the heat dissipation efficiency has lowered, even though I tried to clean it up. Also the 2 fans I can hear easily, maybe because of the dust, I'm not sure. I'm not game to use that old hsf on the new system. (plus, as I recall, I had ALOT of difficulty pining it correctly to the motherboard, I'm almost afraid to try to remove it from the i7 920)

So it's either stock hsf for awhile, or the aging/aching Noctua NH-U9B SE2 hehehe. And I'm really really broke (don't have a job atm), the 700$ I had was a gift, and it's all gone lol. To give you an idea, in my current casing *without the top exhaust fan trap opened*, on the i7 920 idleing @ 2220Mhz, the temps are ~42°C (with HT on). I remember quite clearly being around 34-35°C when I first got it.

Come to think about it (and hear it), it's not the end of the world, the noise it produces, but it is the loudest thing in my whole rig. Hmm... do I use it... eh-smiley.gif
Edited by dIggl3r - 4/14/14 at 7:21pm
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post #10 of 14
Well if in your position, I would just test my CPU to see what overclocking potential it has with tests that don't generate much heat, but don't overclock it 24x7 until you get a better cooler - if it has potential.
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