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I wish they spent less money on "defending" quality of life and more on actually giving people a quality of life.

wow, this is the truest thing in the thread.

the level of abuse this thing is ripe for is astounding.
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Ehh, Can't say I'm opposed.

I have two kids.

Hypothetically speaking if they were abducted you would have a much greater chance at finding them before something terrible happened.
     
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post #33 of 90
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Ehh, Can't say I'm opposed.

I have two kids.

Hypothetically speaking if they were abducted you would have a much greater chance at finding them before something terrible happened.

Yessir this. Imagine if within seconds of you hitting 911 and being connected, dispatch has a live satellite view of your location. You give them a description of the location/car make/model of the suspect, and all they have to do is keep their dispatched units informed on their location. Police will be able to track thieves long after the fact by analyzing satellite footage, kind of like Deja Vu (Denzel movie).

I severely doubt that someone with access to the software has the time to freely roam around spying on random people; they'll most likely be actively tracking actual suspects, or developing the software.
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post #34 of 90
More "safety" from Google and the thin blue thugs. Next I'll be suspecting of committing crimes before I actually do anything. Oh wait...we're there too.

"MUH FREEDUMS" circling the toilet bowl once again.
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For those wondering what kind of abuses? well pretty much everyone unknowingly commits a crime every day. With this kind of system the police could much ore easily pick and choose to who to enforce the law against. For example in Rochester NY in 2011 decided to send 4 squad cars out to enforce curb violations against people who were organizing a protest against the arrest of emily good. Now think about how easily it would to go after political opponents when you can watch every one all the time.
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For those wondering what kind of abuses? well pretty much everyone unknowingly commits a crime every day. With this kind of system the police could much ore easily pick and choose to who to enforce the law against. For example in Rochester NY in 2011 decided to send 4 squad cars out to enforce curb violations against people who were organizing a protest against the arrest of emily good. Now think about how easily it would to go after political opponents when you can watch every one all the time.

Laws will change... They can do that.
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For those wondering what kind of abuses? well pretty much everyone unknowingly commits a crime every day. With this kind of system the police could much ore easily pick and choose to who to enforce the law against. For example in Rochester NY in 2011 decided to send 4 squad cars out to enforce curb violations against people who were organizing a protest against the arrest of emily good. Now think about how easily it would to go after political opponents when you can watch every one all the time.

That story is pretty screwed up, but hilarious at the same time. Long story short on my opinion: they should have learned how to park better and/or not been lazy and pulled closer to the curb. I sure as hell make sure to park centimeters away from the curb, as I don't want some idiot sideswiping my car.
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Yessir this. Imagine if within seconds of you hitting 911 and being connected, dispatch has a live satellite view of your location. You give them a description of the location/car make/model of the suspect, and all they have to do is keep their dispatched units informed on their location. Police will be able to track thieves long after the fact by analyzing satellite footage, kind of like Deja Vu (Denzel movie).

I severely doubt that someone with access to the software has the time to freely roam around spying on random people; they'll most likely be actively tracking actual suspects, or developing the software.

How would know anyway what someone in that position would do? Do you know how they get picked, get trained, are supervised? This is a situation where you have absolutely no control over the one watching you. You have no idea who's behind that monitor. All you know is that they're from "the system", an amalgam of people, technologies, procedures and processes where interaction with the common people is abstracted and compartmentalized.

People will stop become people, they'll be suspects, or victims or accomplices. I say the important part of being a police officer is actually interacting with the people, seeing what's happening from ground zero. Not sitting in a room in front of monitors and pressing buttons seeing how well you get to play as an omnipresent being.

Also are these the two best excuses for accepting this thing:

- They (probably) won't be watching me specifically?
- Think of the children?

Really? The only way the police can do their job these days is to have recording devices everywhere and blackmail people with scare-lines such as "if you don't go along your children will be abducted and we won't be able to find them in time"?
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How would know anyway what someone in that position would do? Do you know how they get picked, get trained, are supervised? This is a situation where you have absolutely no control over the one watching you. You have no idea who's behind that monitor. All you know is that they're from "the system", an amalgam of people, technologies, procedures and processes where interaction with the common people is abstracted and compartmentalized.

People will stop become people, they'll be suspects, or victims or accomplices. I say the important part of being a police officer is actually interacting with the people, seeing what's happening from ground zero. Not sitting in a room in front of monitors and pressing buttons seeing how well you get to play as an omnipresent being.

Also are these the two best excuses for accepting this thing:

- They (probably) won't be watching me specifically?
- Think of the children?

Really? The only way the police can do their job these days is to have recording devices everywhere and blackmail people with scare-lines such as "if you don't go along your children will be abducted and we won't be able to find them in time"?

You don't have kids, obviously.
     
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Laws will change... They can do that.

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That story is pretty screwed up, but hilarious at the same time. Long story short on my opinion: they should have learned how to park better and/or not been lazy and pulled closer to the curb. I sure as hell make sure to park centimeters away from the curb, as I don't want some idiot sideswiping my car.

the problem is that (at least in the US) we have so many laws that I've probably broken a couple today without knowing. This kind of system allows LE to more easily pick and choose who to go after. Laws can change but that doesn't necessarily mean they will change for the better.
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