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In public... you somehow believe that you have a right to your own "personal space" and all information flowing within it?

Oh really, now?

Then explain this law: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/07/justice/massachusetts-upskirt-bill/

That's a law that is granting women (and men) privacy in a PUBLIC space, based on nothing but a reasonable expectation of privacy.
 
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Finally a reason to go outside without cloths on. Take that government!
^This. Now to do the most vulgar possible things so they will never watch me again. Just constantly use an umbrella with a picture of a middle finger or some really large man-boobs. Either that or just put game of thrones spoilers on the top, I dont care about the show so that makes it even better for me lol.
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I really hate comments like this. Your kids survived, but many others did not. People say the same thing about car seats. "I survived riding on my mom's lap, what's the big deal?"

I say give it a whirl...if it helps...it will stay. If it doesn't...it will disappear.

the problem is that most people are going to the other extreme finding some random, extremely rare event; portraying it as common; then proposing something that wouldn't accomplish anything.

In the case of child abduction, statistically speaking, it most commonly done by someone the child knows and trusts. So this system wouldn't help in that situation. For kids grabbed off the street, at present we already have cameras everywhere. Looking for child abductors via surveillance footage can already be done and this live feed wouldn't create, improve or in anyway change that ability.
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You know what? Bring this on. Do it. In a year when crime rates haven't decreased the plug will get pulled and we will not have to worry about this for a long time...save for the NSA doing it, but as long as you don't deal with NSA employees (related, date, marry, divorce) or do actions that cause you to be a person of interest you will not be watched.

haha, the plug will never be pulled once its started and people are getting paid.
those in the system will lobby for it, those creating the hardware for it will pay them to.
prisons will get even deeper pockets and enjoy more souls feast on, etc.

if we had an honest incorruptible system i would agree with you in thinking the plug would be pulled, but we dont....
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I have 4 kids. Two are in their 20's. Haven't lost one yet, and never needed privacy-invading surveillance to help me be a parent. Neither does anyone else.

I really hate comments like this. Your kids survived, but many others did not. People say the same thing about car seats. "I survived riding on my mom's lap, what's the big deal?"

I say give it a whirl...if it helps...it will stay. If it doesn't...it will disappear.

I'm glad you hate comments like this. My kids survived because I was/am a responsible parent. I know everything my kids do and where they are at all times. That's what it means to be a parent.

Erasing privacy rights using this as some kind of excuse is ridiculous. With this principle, why don't I come over to your house and peer in the windows all day? Maybe walk in and go through your computer whenever I feel like it? What, you don't trust me? You have something to hide? You can't trust people with this power, even (especially) if they are getting paid by the government.
Edited by zooterboy - 4/15/14 at 10:25am
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I'm glad you hate comments like this. My kids survived because I was/am a responsible parent. I know everything my kids do and where they are at all times. That's what it means to be a parent.

Erasing privacy rights using this as some kind of excuse is ridiculous. With this principle, why don't I come over to your house and peer in the windows all day? Maybe walk in and go through your computer whenever I feel like it? What, you don't trust me? You have something to hide? You can't trust people with this power, even (especially) if they are getting paid by the government.
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You think your kids never snuck out in their teens?

Responsible parent or naive?

Playing devils advocate here as I never snuck out in my teens, never had to I just told them where I was going in the middle of the night.

But you're acting like you have utter control and it's good that it has worked out for you, but in actuality you are never in control it's just the illusion of control.

You can't control anything external from yourself.

Yes..... obviously it's you being a responsible parent that never caused some psychopath to kidnap your kids. No you just aren't in the small percentage of people that happens too.

Yes because that's the same thing. An aerial view is exactly like peering through my window. Believe me I understand what you are saying, it's a slippery slope, but I'm ok with these types of things as long as there are limits.
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In public... you somehow believe that you have a right to your own "personal space" and all information flowing within it?

Oh really, now?

Then explain this law: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/07/justice/massachusetts-upskirt-bill/

That's a law that is granting women (and men) privacy in a PUBLIC space, based on nothing but a reasonable expectation of privacy.

That's pretty different. That's borderline sexual harassment, though I have to say (I may be purely alone here in having this opinion) if you don't want someone peepin' up your skirt, don't wear one. The only reason this bill has been passed was to add an "exception" (so I call it) to the freedom of taking photographs of anyone in public as you please; which yes, even photography of children isn't illegal. But yea, the point of the bill is to make deliberate attempts to photograph a person's clothed/sexual body parts illegal. It's an extremely specific limitation to the right to photograph any person in public. So, to answer Thrasher's question: no, when you are in public, you have no right to demand outright privacy that prevents other humans from even looking at you. That's the whole meaning of the word public. One can actually quite easily say OTHERS' rights are being reduced, as we used to be able to photograph any part of any person if they were in public, and now can't (in some states).

All in all if you don't want people looking at you, don't go outside. You can't hold anyone legally for simply staring at you, no matter how suggestively they look at you (even less if your skirt gets blown up by the wind or you bend down and show some extras accidentally).
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You can't hold anyone legally for simply staring at you, no matter how suggestively they look at you (even less if your skirt gets blown up by the wind or you bend down and show some extras accidentally.

Ahh but who doesn't like seeing a few accidental extra bits.... thumb.gif
     
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You know what? Bring this on. Do it. In a year when crime rates haven't decreased the plug will get pulled and we will not have to worry about this for a long time...save for the NSA doing it, but as long as you don't deal with NSA employees (related, date, marry, divorce) or do actions that cause you to be a person of interest you will not be watched.

haha, the plug will never be pulled once its started and people are getting paid.
those in the system will lobby for it, those creating the hardware for it will pay them to.
prisons will get even deeper pockets and enjoy more souls feast on, etc.

if we had an honest incorruptible system i would agree with you in thinking the plug would be pulled, but we dont....

Oh the plug will definitely be pulled. Police departments already run on budget vapor the way it is. If it isn't helping it will be shut down.
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Feel sorry for my son. When he grows up privacy will just be some random word in the dictionary.
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