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I have 4 kids. Two are in their 20's. Haven't lost one yet, and never needed privacy-invading surveillance to help me be a parent. Neither does anyone else.

I really hate comments like this. Your kids survived, but many others did not. People say the same thing about car seats. "I survived riding on my mom's lap, what's the big deal?"

I say give it a whirl...if it helps...it will stay. If it doesn't...it will disappear.

I'm glad you hate comments like this. My kids survived because I was/am a responsible parent. I know everything my kids do and where they are at all times. That's what it means to be a parent.

Erasing privacy rights using this as some kind of excuse is ridiculous. With this principle, why don't I come over to your house and peer in the windows all day? Maybe walk in and go through your computer whenever I feel like it? What, you don't trust me? You have something to hide? You can't trust people with this power, even (especially) if they are getting paid by the government.

Nah man, come on over. I'll fire up the grill.

When it comes to the computer side of things I take a lot of care there...not that I have anything to hide save for my tax records. Even back doors in place would cause a log entry when it leaves my network and I'd know about it. So that is pretty well locked down so you won't get far there. As for my windows, I've noticed that about every third person that comes by will look in them. At night my wife is almost psychotic about closing the blinds/drapes, but it never bothers me.

I guess I've just gotten so used to being on camera that my visual privacy doesn't mean much. Everywhere I go I am on a security camera. Heck, there is one on me right now. People can easily see in my windows or back yard. These satellites can't see me when I go into the bathroom and close the door...so what is the big deal if they can see me when I am in a location were any one in the vicinity could see me any way? I still value my data security though, but that isn't part of this discussion.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/15/14 at 11:08am
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WELL PUT!

This is like the Dark Knight where he builds the computer in the basement that basically does the samething. He then destroyed it as he knew it was wrong to have it.

films.. isn’t it weird how they predict technological ideology and road maps.. its almost as there is some sort of inside plan
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If you do not break the law in public this is good for you. I'm excited when this combines with google glass and gives police omniscience. I do not understand why people are so afraid of their pasts. Own up to your mistakes and quit living life with mask on. Laws are their for a reason and you are not an exception.

you do realize in the US alot of laws are made and passed for bribes right?
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We will be chipped in time...... Then they will know for sure where you are.


One step at a time...... Don't want to wake the sheeple. smile.gif


We will never be chipped. As many law suits/ lawyers there is nowadays. Actually believe or not... a lot of police officers would be against that as well. I don't know how this whole everyone who works for the government is evil yada yada, how old are we?
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WELL PUT!

This is like the Dark Knight where he builds the computer in the basement that basically does the samething. He then destroyed it as he knew it was wrong to have it.

films.. isn’t it weird how they predict technological ideology and road maps.. its almost as there is some sort of inside plan

I've always thought of it as a drawing board. Like "wow...wouldn't be amazing if people could talk into small devices that they could carry in their pockets or build it into their shoes?" Fast forward a few years and the cell phone emerges to do what Get Smart and Star Trek were imagining. Actually, star trek had all sorts of stuff in it that has become a reality...especially the medical stuff.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/15/14 at 12:09pm
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I've always thought of it as a drawing board. Like "wow...wouldn't be amazing if people could talk into small devices that could carry in their pockets or build it into their shoes?" Fast forward a few years and the cell phone emerges to do what Get Smart and Star Trek was imagining. Actually, star trek had all sorts of stuff in it that has become a reality...especially the medical stuff.

agree to an extent but recently some of them have been horrifyingly dystopian and worse there made as if its a good way to be..
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WELL PUT!

This is like the Dark Knight where he builds the computer in the basement that basically does the samething. He then destroyed it as he knew it was wrong to have it.

films.. isn’t it weird how they predict technological ideology and road maps.. its almost as there is some sort of inside plan

I've always thought of it as a drawing board. Like "wow...wouldn't be amazing if people could talk into small devices that could carry in their pockets or build it into their shoes?" Fast forward a few years and the cell phone emerges to do what Get Smart and Star Trek was imagining. Actually, star trek had all sorts of stuff in it that has become a reality...especially the medical stuff.
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I don't have kids (as one forum member already luckily guessed) but I would think the best way to protect them would be to empower them with the knowledge and skills necessary to stay safe. Ultimately we are all responsible for ourselves and first and foremost it's our duty to keep safe. Overly leaning on public institutions will lead to a decrease in self-competence.

I remember the many, many videos on YouTube when someone, in a public place, starts recording a police officer for whatever reason and that officer gets angry, starts threatening and sometimes even arrests the citizen. It would seem that the police themselves may not like being on camera. On the other hand such recordings do, on occasion, help people abused by the police - but they don't help bridge the gap between law enforcement and citizens.

We shouldn't be so reliant on this type of observation. In Russia, for instance, distrust is at such a high level that the majority of the people have dash-cams to safeguard against injustice.
The thing is that those dash-cams don't help that much. Traffic violence is still high, incidents still don't get rightfully resolved in court and so on.
All they managed to achieve is give some money to the guys making and selling those cameras and perhaps a false sense of hope.

I'd say that beyond the obvious privacy measures and such, if crime cannot be contained by other means - like actually creating jobs and well-being since happy and working people are much less likely to commit crimes than those unemployed and with no prospects - then I'd say a huge part of the battle is already lost.

Such a system represents a huge distrust in the people. It means putting out forest fires rather than avoiding them. Perhaps the current people using this system understand the dangers and try to avoid abusing it. However things don't stay the same and somewhere down the line someone may forget this responsibility.
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A lot of good things come out of breaking the law.

 

For example, the civil rights activists.

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A lot of good things come out of breaking the law.

For example, the civil rights activists.

And that would continue...actually it would be beneficial to this type of "crime" because if more people were caught breaking those types laws the more media attention it would get. That is what changes these types of laws...the media. The only single good thing the media has ever done in my opinion.

Well, that and meteorologic data being made available to the public.
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