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The fans you pick are ultimately going to be as important as the rad - if not more. 1-2 degrees C is irrelevant really, but loud fans just defeat one of the primary benefits of water cooling - quiet computing.
Someone said to get AP-30's. At 4250 rpm's you will not have a quiet system. I love my GT's, but would not use anything faster than AP-15's. And if I ever change them out I will only use AP-14's (or whatever replaces them since GT is gone bye bye).

For the record I have only used Black Ice radiators and love them. SR-1 280mm, GTX 120 (2), a 360mm thin one (black ice pro?). Lots of good brands out there.

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for fans i needed the NOCTUA NF-A14 FLX R, they use the least amount of power and are silent at any speed.
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for fans i needed the NOCTUA NF-A14 FLX R, they use the least amount of power and are silent at any speed.

Do not choose quickly, choose wisely: smile.gif

THIS beats anything Noctua has to offer at only $17.02 each.


More decibel efficient at any RPM than the Noctuas, made exclusively in Japan for the server market and they only arrive in black on black. smile.gif

No burgundy and flesh color...


http://www.newark.com/sanyo-denki-sanace-fans/9s1212m4011/axial-fan-130ma-12v/dp/03P9424


Oh yea it's the Silent S-Type from San Ace that Corsair and Seasonic use in their Platinum graded PSUs...





    
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those are over an amp, no good if you need 3 going into an aquacomputer aquastream ultra.
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those are over an amp, no good if you need 3 going into an aquacomputer aquastream ultra.

mine are rated at 80mA and 130mA.

Now it's your turn

Here's the pdf.

http://db.sanyodenki.co.jp/product_db/cooling/dcfan/group_pdf/1270530598.pdf
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Need comfort zones, my pedestal can hold 2 140 x 3 rads and 2 120 rads, the aquastream can hold about 4 amps on the fan controllers. .08 amps max for noctua at any speed, also fans designed for psu or industrial is different then rad fans, I doubt you got 6 year warranties from Newark in one. If I have to expand more rads it's not like re inventing the wheel every time, drop in more fans no problem with cable splitter
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Okay, I said that I question the validity of Bundymania's tests.
It appeared that made a few people angry.

I said I would explain why I don't trust that roundup. But I I am limited to a few points atm because I only have my phone right now. I need access to my Linux to better illustrate some of my concerns. So some of it will have to wait.

Never the less, here is a couple of issues I have with that roundup. And I will focus only on the Alphacool lineup, as those are the rads I know and own.

The Alphacool lineup pretty much all have the same internal design, with flat tubes. But of course, as thickness increases, the number of flat tubes increases as well. There is just more room on the Monsta than on the ST30 to get more tubes.

So as the amount of tubes increases, the restriction level decreases. There will be more pressure drop in the ST30, than the XT45, than the UT60, and finally the Monsta being the most freeflow rad of all four.

This decrease in restriction as thickness increases can be observed here on MLL.
I don't own a Monsta, but I do own the ST30, the XT45, and the UT60. And let me assure you that the UT60 is the least restrictive of all 3.

But Bundymania's test data completely defies logic. Here he has the ST30 as the most restrictive at 172 liter/hr, as should be. But next is the Monsta at 180 liter/hr. He finds the Monsta more restrictive that both the XT45 and UT60. And worst of all he tested the XT45 as the least restrictive at 188 liter/hr.

These tests simply defy logic and the most basic understanding of pressure drop.

Now why did he get conflicting, and obviously erroneous data?
I don't know. Maybe he used different pumps, at different voltage. Maybe his pump is getting tired over the lenght of the testing period.

I just don't know why he gets erroneous readings there. He does not explain his testing procedire at lenght. He just offers tge data and expects me to trust his testing was accurate.

Or maybe the data is wrong because at the center of his testing method lays the Aquasuite. It's a gaddamn fan controller guys! You can tell me it's the best controller around, but it's not accurate, reproducible, repeatable, or precise by any stretch of the imagination.

Ask yourself why neither Martin, nor Skinnee use the Aquaero and Aquasuite as their test bed.

What's going on here? You guys think anyone with a fan controller suddenly has credentials to be a reliable tester?
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You haven't really shown us anything to back up your claims about Bundy's testing...

Read my last post to that effect. And I wil have more to say later.

Or maybe you should go on Martin's site and read.up about his testing instruments, and his testing methology.
Than feel free to contrast that with some guy with an Aquaero. rolleyes.gif

Martin uses several sensors for each of his readings, controls painstakingly his anbient, and tons of other factors. In fact, Martin doesn't want to do any more rad testing because he finds them too tedious and too time consuming.

Compare that to a guy who just plugs a rad into his Aquaero and waits 60 minutes. rolleyes.gif
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See this is the very reason why I miss martin, cause now we are left with not as reliable testing methodology which in turn has now caused confusion, especially for me.
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Nothing wrong with it,they are tested with a proven method
Proven method? You must have some insider info here. Because his explanation of thr proven method was about a paragraph long. Or maybe he just told you "My method is proven, I got an Aquaero man!"
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Or maybe you have a crystal ball that told you his testing method is proven?

Sometin wrong with that crystal ball man!
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Bundy has also been around for a long time,just because it doesnt have Martins name on doesnt mean its not accurate.

Bundy's experience as a WCer is not in question here. His testing method is. Or rather his testing results since he has not explained his testing method.

And for you to presume I reject Bundy's test validity merely because he is not Martin is ludicrous.
Or maybe you have a crystal ball that can read into my mind and reveil my reasons for rejecting his test data?

I think your crystal ball is cracked dude.
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You do that.

I just did. See a few post earlier in this thread. I'll have more on this later.
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If anyone had actually looked at the testing you would have known that these results are for 600 rpm

So now your crystal ball told you I didn't read his tests?

Your crystal ball is not only cracked, it needs seriously recalibration dude.
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