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Need comfort zones, my pedestal can hold 2 140 x 3 rads and 2 120 rads, the aquastream can hold about 4 amps on the fan controllers.
Incorrect, it's 5 watts. It's not even meant to be a standalone fan controller, it's a pump with control circuitry attached to it. Theoretically, you can physically connect up to 3 fans to it, but that's not recommended.

As for the original question, the best overall would probably be the Black Ice GTS. If you're dedicated to fans that don't go above 1200RPM, your options open up a ton and it's very difficult to narrow it down. Just don't put any stock in PureOC's results, they seem to be the least accurate cooling testers I've ever seen.
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go big trust me

the cpu loop with the 360 rad get 3 °C increase in water temp with the mpcx at full speed , the gpu loop get only 0.5°C increase in water temps with the nova 1080 and D5 at half speed.

2x7970 @1200 vs i5 4670k@4ghz
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Really appreciate the responses. You guys are great! There are so many products out there, kinda gets overwhelming for a beginner. Now I've definitely found a place to start. Will look forward to gain from the wisdom of this forum in future as well. Cheers!
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go big trust me

the cpu loop with the 360 rad get 3 °C increase in water temp with the mpcx at full speed , the gpu loop get only 0.5°C increase in water temps with the nova 1080 and D5 at half speed.

2x7970 @1200 vs i5 4670k@4ghz
Completely irrelevant,GPU's don't dump as much heat in to a loop as a CPU. Your comparison is not equal in any way.
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Do not choose quickly, choose wisely: smile.gif

THIS beats anything Noctua has to offer at only $17.02 each.


More decibel efficient at any RPM than the Noctuas, made exclusively in Japan for the server market and they only arrive in black on black. smile.gif

No burgundy and flesh color...


http://www.newark.com/sanyo-denki-sanace-fans/9s1212m4011/axial-fan-130ma-12v/dp/03P9424


Oh yea it's the Silent S-Type from San Ace that Corsair and Seasonic use in their Platinum graded PSUs...






Those are well made fans but the blade spacing looks like they are low static pressure fans. I do not see a SP spec on the spec sheet, great case fan, not sure about a rad fan. I'll spend the extra $3 and get F12's
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Observant,I like.
These are indeed not suited to rads based on blade spacing,the wider the blades,the less static pressure is generated.
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Read my last post to that effect. And I wil have more to say later.

Or maybe you should go on Martin's site and read.up about his testing instruments, and his testing methology.
Than feel free to contrast that with some guy with an Aquaero. rolleyes.gif

Martin uses several sensors for each of his readings, controls painstakingly his anbient, and tons of other factors. In fact, Martin doesn't want to do any more rad testing because he finds them too tedious and too time consuming.

Compare that to a guy who just plugs a rad into his Aquaero and waits 60 minutes. rolleyes.gif

Some times testing with real world equipment results in real world data. I'm not defending Bundy's test results or disputing Martins. Martin is local guy and his custom made test equipment is top notch and he's very serious about test results.. Test bench results do not always transfer to real world applications.

Don't sell the Aquaero short, it's more than a controller, it's a microprocessor with dedicated software very capable of providing accurate data.
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Fan choice is at least as important as Rad choice.

Noctua NF-F12s are very capable. Perhaps the best choice at the moment.
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Some times testing with real world equipment results in real world data. I'm not defending Bundy's test results or disputing Martins. Martin is local guy and his custom made test equipment is top notch and he's very serious about test results.. Test bench results do not always transfer to real world applications.

Don't sell the Aquaero short, it's more than a controller, it's a microprocessor with dedicated software very capable of providing accurate data.

In the real world, the XT45 would have twice the pressure drop of Monsta.
In Bundy world, it's the Monsta that somehow becomes more restrictive.

This is the kind of error that real world data collection will accumulate.

I want to know what kind of temp sensor Bundy used. Because over time, the tempsistors shipped with your fan controller can degrade. The flow sensors can also obviously degrade. So can pumps. And so can enviromental variables.

In the real world, there are just so many variables that will throw off a test. Now a careful tester can isulate and eliminate many of those variables. But since the data is all over the map and shown to be innacurate, Bundy obviously didn't isulate enough of those variables.

When you actually read the test data produced by Bundy, you realize there are too many inconsistancies all over the map. The flow test results for my 4 Alphacool rads was just a sample of this. More can be found.

Bundy might very well be an experienced water cooler, a nice guy with good intentions, but his tests are not even remotely accurate.

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Then instead of running your mouth,display a third party test. Your reliance on one source of data is weak.
You claim to have tested this (like you claim to test everything),show me the test setup. Show me plotted results. Show me anything other than 'Martin said this'.

As previously stated,the Aquaero,although not lab grade,is certainly up to the task and is a consistent variable,he didnt change anything.
Now,also as previously stated,the Aquaero is representative of actual results likely to be seen by the normal user. Bundy's testing is also representitive of real use,he tests with a loop in a rig,not in an abstract test rig.


Even Martin would be the first to agree that using one frame of reference is weak at best.
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Then instead of running your mouth,display a third party test. Your reliance on one source of data is weak.
You claim to have tested this (like you claim to test everything),show me the test setup. Show me plotted results. Show me anything other than 'Martin said this'.

As previously stated,the Aquaero,although not lab grade,is certainly up to the task and is a consistent variable,he didnt change anything.
Now,also as previously stated,the Aquaero is representative of actual results likely to be seen by the normal user. Bundy's testing is also representitive of real use,he tests with a loop in a rig,not in an abstract test rig.


Even Martin would be the first to agree that using one frame of reference is weak at best.

This is too precious.
Going to work now.
Will have to give a reply later on

In the mean time, don't be so negative, B NEGATIVE.

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