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So, what I take from this is that, for the average person (even on OCN), the 290X will be the better value to still get great performance. For those eeking to get the most out of their $, it's close with the 780ti being able to produce more power in the end. The price difference is under $100 (290X being the cheaper), so at that range is it worth the extra $100 for the minor performance gains (at stock)?
Am i on track here or did I miss a step?

You hit the head on the nail. I originally wanted to get a 290x but ended up getting the 780 ti due to the mining prices. I'm extremely pleased with the card and it's a change of scenary from the amd offering and will have some nice feature (lolphysx, g-sync) but now that I'm more focused on school that little extra would of been nice to save for around the same amount of speed.
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post #12 of 41
So it's settled now: Those seeking for best value should opt for the non-reference 290(X) and those wanting absolute best should by all means get the 780(Ti) unless you don't mind mighty Titans.

BTW where are all the people who use to say AMD's high-end are bad because they sucks more power?
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Once it's not throttling (though it still probably was a bit due to the stock bios power limit) a 780Ti will beat a 290X even in gaming evolved titles (and this review was basically a list of gaming evolved titles). Even clock for clock but of course it will also OC higher.
Isn't bit unfair to say this? I mean, you may also know that these factory overclocked version are mostly for those who don't go water and prefer superior aftermarket cooler as well?
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Isn't bit unfair to say this? I mean, you may also know that these factory overclocked version are for those who don't go water and prefer superior aftermarket cooler as well?

No because you don't need watercooling to flash a 780Ti to allow more than 110% TDP.

GK110 throttling usually isn't temp related unless you run stock fan profile on the stock blower cooler. GK110 throttling (especially after OCs) on stock bioses is about the restrictive stock power limit.
 
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Well that power consumption is under control.
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I would have to agree with that. The only thing you missed is that anyone who really is after the ultimate enthusiast value should be looking at the non-x 290 and the non-Ti 780.
I get what you are saying,and believe me ,I am no fanboy of any company,but I am reluctant to get involved with AMD cards ,due to so many people reporting terrible drivers ,and poor crossfire scaling ,and choppiness in games.Not to mention massive price gouging lately ,due to miners swooping up AMD cards for that purpose. I guess I have been spooked . I have just had such good luck with Nvidia,so I continue to stick with them. Also seems so easy to just pop in a new card ,and not have to wipe your entire PC clean of all traces of video drivers and files to change brands.
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I get what you are saying,and believe me ,I am no fanboy of any company,but I am reluctant to get involved with AMD cards ,due to so many people reporting terrible drivers ,and poor crossfire scaling ,and choppiness in games.Not to mention massive price gouging lately ,due to miners swooping up AMD cards for that purpose. I guess I have been spooked . I have just had such good luck with Nvidia,so I continue to stick with them. Also seems so easy to just pop in a new card ,and not have to wipe your entire PC clean of all traces of video drivers and files to change brands.

I've had a few issues myself with AMD lately but nothing serious enough to rule the 290 out of the value equation. Still, the 780 is actually great value as well so there is a good option available from both camps.
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post #17 of 41
AMD's performance seems to have regressed . the 14.3 drivers are having throttling issues. This is not good for their product value. AMD should clear up the mess asap.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1477228/14-3-throttling-issue

we can see R9 290X is running slower at same settings compared to a few reviews earlier

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/23/asus_r9_290x_directcu_ii_oc_video_card_review/4#.U01gmKKfZ8F
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/04/14/gigabyte_r9_290x_oc_asus_gtx_780_ti_dcuii_review/7#.U01gmKKfZ8F

2560 x 1600 SMAA 4x High settings

ASUS R9 290X DC2T (1050 mhz) - 48.2 fps
Gigabyte R9 290X (1115 Mhz) - 46.7 fps

2560 x 1600 SMAA 2TX Very high settings .

ASUS R9 290X DC2T (1050 mhz) - 43.2 fps
Gigabyte R9 290X (1115 Mhz) - 42.7 fps
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0.5fps is within the margin of error and 1.5 is almost there as well...
 
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0.5fps is within the margin of error and 1.5 is almost there as well...

did you notice the clocks. the slower card is also running at higher clocks. rolleyes.gif
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No because you don't need watercooling to flash a 780Ti to allow more than 110% TDP.

GK110 throttling usually isn't temp related unless you run stock fan profile on the stock blower cooler. GK110 throttling (especially after OCs) on stock bioses is about the restrictive stock power limit.
What I meant was most users who get such products are hesitate to flash custom BIOSes, in which case stock performance matters to them. e.g. GTX 650 Ti Boost got more votes simply because it was faster than the conservatively clocked HD 7850. I know that this has no relation to ultra high-end segment but this is something most nervous gamers don't overlook.
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