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post #11 of 71
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Originally Posted by BigMack70 View Post

I'm not sure this works long-term.

But the writing has been on the wall for a long time - AMD is out of the high end desktop space and Intel is the sole remaining purveyor of high end gaming CPUs. AMD will likely manage to survive by relying on their GPUs and sales of entry level APUs. AMD's console deal certainly was a big win for them as well.

the thing is CPU is soon quite irrelevant for gaming with DX12/mantle so makes every sense not to invest there as heavily.
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Originally Posted by nitrubbb View Post

the thing is CPU is soon quite irrelevant for gaming with DX12/mantle so makes every sense not to invest there as heavily.

You are probably right, eventually the PC will just be a giant GPU, and we probably won't even buy CPUs anymore. rolleyes.gif

In all seriousness... the idea that the CPU will cease being important for high end gaming is a joke. Unless you have a time machine, you should probably temper your claims about these things.

I do agree that it makes no sense for AMD to be investing in high end CPU space, but not because high end CPUs don't matter. Rather, it's just because AMD can't compete with Intel in that space, and so it's a waste of money for them to dump into it, especially considering it's a small market anyways.
Edited by BigMack70 - 4/15/14 at 6:26am
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The mining speculation bubble popped when the IRS declared it as taxable.

Queue the 50,000? R9 290 series that are selling for < $400 , then you have a problem selling the stock on shelves.

AMD failed to execute with Kaveri also. All they have is a CPU with "promising" features right now, the A8-7600 would have sliced into the i3/Pentium sales but at $150+ nobody's buying A10s except for developers and people bored with Intel.
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post #14 of 71
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Amd is still great bang for your buck but if you want extreme performance and do not care what you pay, Intel is the only way.

I'd amend that to "if you want extreme performance" and drop out the not caring about what you pay. If you want extreme performance, Intel is the only way. I care what I pay, but there's a difference between caring what you pay and going for a "budget" build.
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Define "extreme performance" please. Because I really want to know what that is in the minds of ppl around here.

This is not a joke or an insult to anyone. I seriously would like to know. Because the majority of ppl's rigs I see on this forum do not scream EXTREME performance to me. Myself included.

It just makes me chuckle, is all. I don't consider an i7 in a gaming rig EXTREME.
 
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post #16 of 71
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hasn't am3+ been "dead" a long time ago already?

anyway, for the fun of it, compare intel/amd market caps aswell.

I believe in 2014 amd will have to focus on gpu side more to make money and in 2015 they will release a new FX cpu. I think its a wise business decision. Absolutely no need for put out CPU-s as frequently as intel does.


is there proof of an fx cpu for 2015? if so.....link it plz. i was pretty sure amd was done with fx.
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Define "extreme performance" please. Because I really want to know what that is in the minds of ppl around here.

This is not a joke or an insult to anyone. I seriously would like to know. Because the majority of ppl's rigs I see on this forum do not scream EXTREME performance to me. Myself included.

It just makes me chuckle, is all. I don't consider an i7 in a gaming rig EXTREME.

An i7 is superior to anything from AMD for gaming, therefore it's probably fair to classify it as "extreme". The only higher standard you could have would be to further delimit that and ONLY count Intel's hex core chips as "extreme".
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AMD made an official statement a long time ago that they are trying to cut the R&D back...to have more overlap and reuse technologies across different products. That whole "Fusion" thing.

So this has been known about for a long time. What does it mean? It means that AMD is going to be picking their horses wisely and when they get something that works they will apply it to as many places as they can. There will be less innovations, but when they do get something they will probably perfect it rather than take three iterations to get something right. So I think we can expect good things out of AMD yet.
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They say speculation about statistics are correct 60% of the time,everytime
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If AMD wants to be bigger to the casual gaming crowd, they better start getting more of their APUs into the computers that are on display at frys, best buy, etc. Not every casual person I know would even bother to do a build.
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