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Gaming high end m-atx, sli custom watercooled build - need advice...

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Hi all,

I really don't know where to put this thread but looked around and found this category so hope I'm not that far off.

Ok, a little history first because this is kinda a seek for advice thread, and I think its better you'll find out where I'm at so that it would be easier to advice accordingly.

I have been building and optimizing computers as an hobby for about 15 years now. I'm only 28 so I haven't had the money to really explore my hobby to much yet, but I have been experimenting/researching a bit. Probably build around 10 systems now. Currently sitting on: i5-3570k @ 4.6GHz (delidded w/ NH-d14), Classy 780 @ 1270/1750 (ACX), p8z77 v-pro, 8gb ram, 256gb raid0 (Samsung 830) in a fractal r3.

I'm beginning to get bored with this build and been wondering what should be the next challenge?!?

Therefore I began to think about custom watercooling. I do not have any experience with watercooling until now, and if I want to do it I think I want to do it by building a smallest possible form-factor system but without doing to many compromises. Therefore I thought about a haswell-e (2011), m-atx sli build. I probably want to keep my classy w/ samsung memory gtx780 and try to grab another one secondhand for the next build and clock them as high as possible.

If anyone could be so kind to give me some input to some good and thorough guides to learn how to build a custom watercooling loop, and also tip me in some direction on what case I could use (hopefully as small and neutral as possible) and what kind of radiators, pump and other parts I need/should use, and why... I would be really grateful smile.gif

Regarding fans, I'd really like someone that does a great job without making too much noise.

Thank you all in advance smile.gif
Edited by matta85 - 4/15/14 at 10:34am
post #2 of 4
First off - The Watercooling Truth Chart



In broad, general terms:
The bigger the radiator, the slower its fans can run. To remove the same amount of heat a small rad needs high pressure fans while a big rad can use lower pressure fans. So right off the bat, with a SFF case you're trying to build a car that gets 40 mpg and also will go 200 mph. Doable, but not easy!

A good place to get a handle on the concepts involved is Martin's Liquid Lab's Pump Planning Guide

Read that and then come back with your questions.
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There are matx case options offering space for 280mm rads now. You may have to sacrifice blistering speeds unless you want: a) A lot of radiator, or b) a lot of noise.
    
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As an example....

I'm running an Asus Impact mitx system - i7-4770K @ 4.6 GHz with an R9 280X with a single 180mm radiator, so it's not hard to do.

I would suggest trawling through the project logs on here for guidance.

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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
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i7 870  Asus Maximus III Formula GTX 480  HD 5870 
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Coolermaster Silent Pro 750W NZXT Panzerbox 
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