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is there any solid announcements or is it all pure speculation?
Right now its a rumor but its highly plasuble as Intel confirmed to be there and they said 9 series boards will come early in the summer. I'd wait if you want to get the most out of your bucks.
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if i was him i would wait for broadwell, but he seems to be in a hurry so either get the 4770k now if you can find it cheap or wait 2 months for refresh or wait like +6 months for broadwell.
Broadwell seems like it's going to overclock better since it will NOT have the VRM's integrated into the CPU die.

An overclocked c6600 is not that bad. It's on par with phenom II if I am not mistaken.
    
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Not a lot of people would agree with this idea, but wait until the new Haswell refresh hits shelves. Try at that point to grab a used 4770K, assuming that people will start to sell their older chips for the brand new ones. Save some money and jump on the Z87 bandwagon thumb.gif

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I would wait for the Devils Canyon refresh to hit. I get that waiting for Haswell-E may be a bit long, but Devils Canyon should be out soon, and if the information we have on it is correct it should be worth the wait. Performance wise i don't expect it to be anything more than a 100mhz increase, but if they fixed the TIM/HS Gap issues it will save you the trouble of delidding to get a solid overclock, to me that alone is worth the small wait.
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dang that's an old chip. Upgrade to the 4770k dude, I see all these people saying wait, wait, wait. but dude. the 4770k will be quite a big jump from that core 2 quad. How much time would you gain from waiting a couple weeks for the haswell refresh? a couple months? if you upgrade to the 4770k now as opposed to waiting each of those processors in my mind would last 3-6 years depending on when you feel like upgrading next. If i were you and had the money now, I would order those parts and start building.
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Do you need to upgrade? Or just want to upgrade?
The 1150 socket I'm pretty sure is at the end of its life cycle, meaning next Intel CPU's will probably use a different socket. Actually I was wrong it is the Chipset. Broadwell will use 1150. If you don't need to upgrade you could just wait and then upgrade to a whole new platform. Just so you don't feel like you upgraded now and then suddenly the newest shiny toy is released and you can't use it smile.gif

http://wccftech.com/intel-broadwell-k-series-desktop-processors-launch-q4-2014-lga-1150-socket/

With all that said upgrading to Sandy, Ivy, or Haswell now will give you fantastic improvements over the Q6600, huge performance increase thumb.gif
I guess just depends on how you look at your tech versus what is on the horizon.

My 3770k does everything I could ever ask of it thumb.gif

what i do and how much i make from it is at the moment bottlenecked by my hardware and seems like best route profit and comfortability wise is getting the upgrade now and possibly from the profit i make get an haswell-e 8core set up couple of months after it comes out
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what i do and how much i make from it is at the moment bottlenecked by my hardware and seems like best route profit and comfortability wise is getting the upgrade now and possibly from the profit i make get an haswell-e 8core set up couple of months after it comes out

Why bother with the 8 core? the 4770k will be enough for at least a couple years. especially coming from a core 2 quad cpu. I had a core 2 quad q8300 about 4 years ago, and when i jumped up to the 2600k in spring of 2012 it was definitely noticeable and well worth it. still using that cpu in my main rig today. upgrade to the 4770k and in a couple years or once you think your computer is slow, excluding software issues, then i would upgrade again in the future. just my opinion.
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what i do and how much i make from it is at the moment bottlenecked by my hardware and seems like best route profit and comfortability wise is getting the upgrade now and possibly from the profit i make get an haswell-e 8core set up couple of months after it comes out

If you use the system to work, make money, I'd skip socket 1150 and look at Haswell-E.
If you want to hop to Haswell-E in the mean time I'd suggest picking up a super cheap Sandy 2600k.

The problem with moving out of LGA 775 is you need to include a memory upgrade, which isn't cheap. Haswell-E is to use DDR4 so then you are looking at two full upgrades.
Straight upgrade to Haswell-e for productivity would be the single largest upgrade path to take, and probably the most economical if you can swing it.

Otherwise if you just need a stop gap I'd get a Sandy 2600k and memory that will work. Sandy is still an excellent performer, and a good deal faster than a Q6600. Just my thoughts.
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Why bother with the 8 core? the 4770k will be enough for at least a couple years. especially coming from a core 2 quad cpu. I had a core 2 quad q8300 about 4 years ago, and when i jumped up to the 2600k in spring of 2012 it was definitely noticeable and well worth it. still using that cpu in my main rig today. upgrade to the 4770k and in a couple years or once you think your computer is slow, excluding software issues, then i would upgrade again in the future. just my opinion.
i dont use my pc mainly for general use/gaming so any extra power i can get benefits me hence why the 8 core

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If you use the system to work, make money, I'd skip socket 1150 and look at Haswell-E.
If you want to hop to Haswell-E in the mean time I'd suggest picking up a super cheap Sandy 2600k.

The problem with moving out of LGA 775 is you need to include a memory upgrade, which isn't cheap. Haswell-E is to use DDR4 so then you are looking at two full upgrades.
Straight upgrade to Haswell-e for productivity would be the single largest upgrade path to take, and probably the most economical if you can swing it.

Otherwise if you just need a stop gap I'd get a Sandy 2600k and memory that will work. Sandy is still an excellent performer, and a good deal faster than a Q6600. Just my thoughts.

i was considering grapping a cheapo i7 sandy or ivy but the price dosent seem to have a very good gap unless i find a second hand one which i havaent found any currently on ( mainly because im in uk and not many uk people reselling them i guess ) and i would be overclocking as much as possible for 24/7 stable oc
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i would take the upgrade now im not sure that the haswell refresh is going to benfit that much over current haswell...only reason intel doing this is that they realized that they used bad thermal paste and bad IHS.

Haswell refresh is set to run cooler than current models at least the "k series variants" cause of improvements .Take note that ivy and haswell run hotter than sandy bridge.
Its kind of a huge silicone lottery,cause the glue doesnt always make a proper seal and paste doesnt always make proper contact with IHS.

Well if you know anything about haswell or ivy you should know the only way of achieving desirable temps is by deliding your cpu...
Other than thermals out of the box i dont see a gain waiting for haswell refresh...

Broadwell is something else...Haswell-E also...both are set to use DDR4 now arguably yes there is some benifits but i think we at a stage now where memory is kind of at its peak.
DDR4 is set to be the last member of the DDR family ...i know shock to many of you guys but its true...theres a common misconception that gddr5 has any relation to ddr3 or ddr4 but its not...
System Memory its self has reached a plateau right now we have enough bandwidth to handle just about anything...what ddr4 is set to do is use that same bandwidth,running at higher capacities using less power.

If you end up going Haswell is 1150 will probably be able to run the newer broadwell cpu chip with some firmware and bios updates but honestly don't thats something a AMD enthusiasts tend to do...
that broadwell would likely perform the same as a haswell in that situation,it would not be able to utlize all its features.

That being said a cpu+mobo and memory should be bought as a combo yes its expensive.Haswell ivy or even sandy under gaming you wont experience much bottlenecking unless your running some heckitc sli configuration
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