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I am trying to figure something out - does GTX 780 Ti simply have higher clocks than GTX 780 or does it actually include more/better hardware chips?
From my research, besides GPU and Memory clocks, GTX 780 Ti has:
- More Stream Processors
- Mote Texture Units

GTX 780 is about 20% faster than GTX 770, but GTX 780 Ti is about 30% faster than GTX 780, correct? There is a bigger leap from GTX 780 to 780 Ti than from 770 to 780, correct? Hell, GTX 780 Ti is as faster or fast than GTX 770 SLi! GTX 780 is nowhere near as fast as GTX 770 SLi!

I can get either a stock/reference eVGA GTX 780 Ti or a Classified eVGA GTX 780. I would NOT be able to reach stock GTX 780 Ti performance with a GTX 780 (non-Ti) card, even I OC (air-only, no water), correct? Then, if you take in consideration GTX 780 Ti OC, then there is no way GTX 780 non-Ti OC performance would be close to GTX 780 Ti OC performance...

I plan on sticking with 1080p, max/ultra settings, 4x AA. 16x AF. For now, even BF4 runs well on my OC GTX 770, although there are dips into 40fps. Some games, like Shadow Warrior run at 33fps on the same settings with the same card! I know that 2Gb is NO LONGER enough for VRAM as even BF4 uses more than 2Gb. I want 3Gb at least. It would seem as if GTX 780 non-Ti would work for me, BUT from what I see - its not the best value because GTX 780 Ti is THAT MUCH FASTER, costing only extra $200 or so.

I have $675 and with some help I can get the regular eVGA GTX 780 Classified, or, without any help, get stock/regular/reference eVGA GTX 780 Ti. Which card has more value for its $$$?

SLi is no good for me because I have a 120hz monitor and thus I would experience constant microstutters whether I use vsync or not...
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On air, just go for the 780ti. (if you dont care about noise). If you care about noise, then go with the 780. The 780 and 780ti are pretty close in performance and some 780 classifieds are known to clock a little higher than your average 780 since the chips are SC/FTW/Classified chips by EVGA are binned.

On the most part, the 780 and 780ti are considered to be "flagship cards" of NVidia, so the capacitors and other electrical components are a lot better than your average 760/770.

The 780ti is probably only 15-20% better than a 780, and also depends on silicon lottery if you get a good card. It really all depends if you get lucky or not with a good card. You might get a 780ti that cant overclock well, and a 780 that will overclock insanely high, and the 780 surpassing the 780ti... but on air the chances of that is a lot lower than on water.

Since you are not water cooling then i suggest to just go for the 780ti. For the best price though, the 780 is at a good price especially if bought used here on OCN with some warranty left (of course). Ive seen some for 400ish around here.

For an extra 200 dollars, i wouldnt say its worth to get the 780ti unless you can really cash out that much. A single 780 should be enough to run BF4 even at max settings.

The ACX cooler on the 780 Classified is very quiet though, going to be a lot quieter and a lot better heat dissipation than your centrifugal fan on the stock/reference 780ti. The centrifugal blower coolers on those reference cards are going to be loud man... well at least louder than your ACX cooler on the classified.

Right now, i have a 780 Classified on water -- but im clocked to 1400 on water and a single card is enough to play max settings with 4x msaa and getting at least >90 fps average. mostly around the triple digit framerate. on a lower clock, i think i can do like 2x MSAA at 1200mhz or no MSAA since it can get pretty performance heavy, while still maintaining good framerates on a single card + 120 hz monitor.
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I am trying to figure something out - does GTX 780 Ti simply have higher clocks than GTX 780 or does it actually include more/better hardware chips?
From my research, besides GPU and Memory clocks, GTX 780 Ti has:
- More Stream Processors
- Mote Texture Units

GTX 780 is about 20% faster than GTX 770, but GTX 780 Ti is about 30% faster than GTX 780, correct? There is a bigger leap from GTX 780 to 780 Ti than from 770 to 780, correct? Hell, GTX 780 Ti is as faster or fast than GTX 770 SLi! GTX 780 is nowhere near as fast as GTX 770 SLi!

I can get either a stock/reference eVGA GTX 780 Ti or a Classified eVGA GTX 780. I would NOT be able to reach stock GTX 780 Ti performance with a GTX 780 (non-Ti) card, even I OC (air-only, no water), correct? Then, if you take in consideration GTX 780 Ti OC, then there is no way GTX 780 non-Ti OC performance would be close to GTX 780 Ti OC performance...

I plan on sticking with 1080p, max/ultra settings, 4x AA. 16x AF. For now, even BF4 runs well on my OC GTX 770, although there are dips into 40fps. Some games, like Shadow Warrior run at 33fps on the same settings with the same card! I know that 2Gb is NO LONGER enough for VRAM as even BF4 uses more than 2Gb. I want 3Gb at least. It would seem as if GTX 780 non-Ti would work for me, BUT from what I see - its not the best value because GTX 780 Ti is THAT MUCH FASTER, costing only extra $200 or so.

I have $675 and with some help I can get the regular eVGA GTX 780 Classified, or, without any help, get stock/regular/reference eVGA GTX 780 Ti. Which card has more value for its $$$?

SLi is no good for me because I have a 120hz monitor and thus I would experience constant microstutters whether I use vsync or not...

Since the 780 ti reference is voltage locked a highly overclocked 780 classy will come very close and i think I would rather have a 780 classy. But you wont be able to push it that far on air so if you seriously think you will always stick with air than I would say the ti is better. Especially if gaming is your main priority. Also the 780 ti classy is $750 so you are very close to one. If I were you I would look for a used 780 ti classy on the marketplace and you will have the best card out. It is an amazing card and one day you can put a water block on it and really push it if you get the watercooling bug.
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I owned both actually.

Basically the 780 Classy needs between 150-200 mhz extra to equal the numbers the 780 Ti puts out.

So if you're on air, the voltage needed for the 780 Classy to sustain those clocks puts temps up way too high.

I ended up using the evga step up to trade in the 780 Classy for a reference 780 Ti.

For everyday use, on air, the 780 Ti is much better.
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I need 20 more posts to use this forum's Buy/Sell/Trade section, right?
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