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But if you can use other color like blue and black then thishttp://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-A99FPR2&c=CJ

Or
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Or another red with black mobo
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Maybe because a 7950 isn't the same as a 770? lol

A 770 is basically a 680

A 280X is basically a 7970

7970>7950

It isnt fair to compare two 7950 vs two 770

It wasnt the performance of the 7950s. They were fine individually. In crossfire they were fine for the most part. IN crossfire AND gaming across multiple monitors, it was horrible. One 7950 performed better than two in this situation. As far as i know, the software etc was rectified on the 290. Not sure on the others. Im not knocking AMD gpus except in that configuration. It was real bad and only crossfire + gaming across multiple screens. I use and build with both. Both make great gpus. As for the 280x > 770, im not sure where your seeing that as from everything i see it and the 770 run pretty much neck and neck. 280x has better mem bandwidth and 770 has better pixel rate and tessellation. Again, both are good cards, especially at 1080P.

OP, i wouldnt go for the 4gb version either. With the 256 bit mem bus its questionable how useful it would really be anyway at utilizing the extra bandwidth. As for three screens though, it is alot of fun. There are some real good and not to pricey triple monitor stands out there too. This is my setup, excuse my cluttered desk.

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pick up an aftermarket 290 and call it a day
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It wasnt the performance of the 7950s. They were fine individually. In crossfire they were fine for the most part. IN crossfire AND gaming across multiple monitors, it was horrible. One 7950 performed better than two in this situation. As far as i know, the software etc was rectified on the 290. Not sure on the others. Im not knocking AMD gpus except in that configuration. It was real bad and only crossfire + gaming across multiple screens. I use and build with both. Both make great gpus. As for the 280x > 770, im not sure where your seeing that as from everything i see it and the 770 run pretty much neck and neck. 280x has better mem bandwidth and 770 has better pixel rate and tessellation. Again, both are good cards, especially at 1080P.

OP, i wouldnt go for the 4gb version either. With the 256 bit mem bus its questionable how useful it would really be anyway at utilizing the extra bandwidth. As for three screens though, it is alot of fun. There are some real good and not to pricey triple monitor stands out there too. This is my setup, excuse my cluttered desk.

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I didn't understand everything biggrin.gif . Could you simplify a bit please? Btw your tri screen setup is so badass drool.gif

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No, but you can get close. I have an MSI GTX 770 Lightning that I got right after launch and I run it at 1372 MHz with +100mv on the core. If I use more than +119mv with AB (haaax!) it gets to 95c and throttles. You will need to modify the bios (I can do that for you) to take real advantage of it and get past all the limits/throttling. I'm trying to run a 96Hz 1440p monitor and games like Crysis run in the 40's (unplayable for me) even after lowering settings/optimizing a lot so 1080p is the limit if you want to run at or near 60fps more often than not. When it comes to drivers and overall smoothness I'm going to have to go with Nvidia. After my experience with Crossfire and single GPU AMD cards this generation I think AMD has fallen behind with their driver stability and framepacing vs nvidia. Nvidia is definitely worth the extra few buck to me even without considering PhysX or Shadowplay. (For now)

Even with just 2GB of vram I'm not running out in games even on my 1440p monitor running 2x msaa in Far Cry 3 although I am getting close 1800-1900mb. It wouldn't be a problem if you're only running one monitor but if you run 2 you'll be needing more power GPU before you'll run out of memory anyway.

You should consider getting a Gsync monitor. That will make any lack of GPU performance in some games much less noticeable and in my opinion is the best way to futureproof yourself right now. I am not up to date with the latest and greatest in this category though so someone else will have to chime in about that. thumb.gif

What's shadowplay, physicX and what's a Gsync monitor?

I think you're not considering the fact that I'll be making crossfire/SLI setup. So if you double the GPU power, are you sure that the Vram won't an issue?
post #55 of 110
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I didn't understand everything biggrin.gif . Could you simplify a bit please? Btw your tri screen setup is so badass drool.gif
What's shadowplay, physicX and what's a Gsync monitor?

I think you're not considering the fact that I'll be making crossfire/SLI setup. So if you double the GPU power, are you sure that the Vram won't an issue?

I had the 990FX UD3 for about a month but the on board fan control didn't know what "silent" meant. The CPU fans kept going up and down, up and down. It drove me completely insane. I'm not afraid of totally badmouthing it for that either. Don't get it, waste of money.

Shadowplay... I have no idea, I've never even looked into it. Video recording with little impact I think? A cracked Bandicam works fine for me, the acceleration it gets from CUDA and the high quality compression means there's a negligible impact on frame rate. As for PhysX, it has to be coded into games to be made use of, it ads extra "physics" related effects, smoke and accurate physics for bullet shell casings, stuff like that. It's not worth enabling if you're having trouble reaching 60fps or whatever your goal is. (Most monitors can do at least 72Hz).

As for Gsync, that one is a big deal. Read up on it here: http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview/
Edited by cookieboyeli - 4/16/14 at 10:41pm
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Shadowplay is a game capture that has nearly 0 impact. PhysX isn't that useful right now, only place I've noticed it is in BL2 where some of the cloth stuff will move when you touch it.
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To set the two apart, I usually like GeForce for gaming, and Radeon for most everything else.

Comparing the two on the hardware level has always been difficult. Even if you could compare a card from each, with the same clocks, ROPs, TMUs, and bandwidth, you could count on never seeing the same performance with a given game. Not only is there the bias of the particular game towards one or the other, there is also completely different architectures and behaviors. You can forget trying to match up core counts in this comparison.

PhysX? Mantle? No worries-- the competition finds their way to compensate, and no one entity really comes out as the sole-standard. Your "best performance" is going to come down to the application at hand. Look into the games you'll play, and see if you have your own bias to speak of. Otherwise, don't sweat the small stuff. A powerful card is a powerful card. If it's all about value, consider the fact that you're about to make a calculated decision shortly before a new wave hits the market (Maxwell). Even if you don't go after one of them, their very presence will drive down the prices of previous cards.
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Fxa 990 ud3 has problems with vrm cooling.so avoid under all costs

I have recomended that mobo to some friends and they haven't had any problems with it, I've seen posts here arguing about cooling issues on this particular board but maybe it was a bad bulk of boards? what revision were they talking about?

There are 4 different revisions of that board, If he orders it he should be getting the last one (Rev 4.0) which should have all those issues solved.

Rev 1.0

Rev 1.1

Rev 1.2

Rev 3.0

Rev 4.0

You can clearly see that they have changed the heatsinks in the last revision (maybe thats the fix? Just aesthetic changes?), would be cool if someone can comfirm it.
Edited by danilon62 - 4/17/14 at 2:56am
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pick up an aftermarket 290 and call it a day

^this. you should get one for $400 now. it is about 30% faster than the 7970 or 770. play BF4 maxed with your cpu at stock but with mantle.thumb.gif

edit: wait, you gonna play Titanfall . . . that eats vram.
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I have recomended that mobo to some friends and they haven't had any problems with it, maybe it was a bad bulk of boards? what revision? I think there are 4 revisions of that board, last one should have all those issues solved.

I was really exited about this board before I got it since everyone seems to love it. I got a rev 4 to replace my Asrock Extreme9 neglected bios full of bugs. When I swapped them out I changed nothing else, yet the CPU temperature readings were completely different. Every 8 or so seconds the temperature would spike by 10c instantly then slack off at exactly the same rate until it reached it's original value. I reseated the cooler 3 times and it didn't help, besides the spikes were obviously artificial and not actually real. I learned that AMD uses an algorithm to calculate the CPU temperature of it's chips instead of putting sensors in the chips which increases production costs. This wouldn't be a problem for me if it weren't for how the fans handled the fake temperature spikes. The fans ramped up to maximum immediately and then went back down with the slope of the temperature drop. Overall they were much louder and faster than my Asrock board and only took settings for suggestions.

Most importantly, the spikes didn't reach that high in temperature, probably something like 48c max and the fans were going nuts over it. Complete overkill. It doesn't even matter if the board wasn't working properly, it's legit normal response for mild temperatures was to ramp up the fans as fast as possible and vary the speed annoyingly, even on "silent".

I'm not saying the temperature spikes are going to happen to you, but the fan control issue probably will affect you since it's an issue of how they programmed it.
Edited by cookieboyeli - 4/17/14 at 3:07am
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