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My experience going from PCI to PCIE sound card on a Gigabyte Z77 UD5H motherboard. I had wondered why my flick shots felt way off all of a sudden, changing back to PCI card fixed it:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1433882/gaming-and-mouse-response-bios-optimization-guide-for-modern-pc-hardware-2013-r0ach-edition/120#post_22119550
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Funny. My Xonar Essence STX PCI-e card has no effect on my mouse.
     
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Yeah, zero effect on mine...Xonar DX

but if you care that much, use the PS/2 port.
Edited by deafboy - 4/15/14 at 7:38pm
 
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Nor does my sound blaster titanium...
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Nor does my X-fi PCIE fatal1ty Titanium.
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Never had an issue.
 
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post #7 of 69
sound blaster z working fine for me also for a year now.
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post #8 of 69
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People claiming "my PC works fine", yea uh, that's what I said about mine, the computer doesn't catch on fire when you start it with the PCIE card, it works, it just doesn't run as smooth as the PCI card. I tested both a Gigabyte Z77 UD5H, and an MSI Z87 G55, similar results on both.

You don't really need a PCI card to test it, just remove the PCIE sound card entirely and .reboot.

Every board probably reacts a little differently, but on the two boards I tested, I got the same results. The results are, inserting a PCIE sound card (Sound Blaster Z) caused noticeable difference in smoothness when dragging windows, more screen chop, laggier mouse movement, etc. Inserting the PCI sound card caused no noticeable change in anything.

I feel the PCIE sound card is interacting some way with the GPU that the PCI card doesn't. Either that, or the system gives way more priority to the PCIE card than PCI one.

This is Windows 7 btw. If someone else tests this, please don't come at me with some Windows 8 + vsync turned on + aero garbage for the love of god. It's pretty hard to notice things like chop with vsync permanently forced on in desktop mode. Win 8 even forces vsync on in borderless windowed mode, it's complete trash.
Edited by r0ach - 4/15/14 at 9:10pm
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Maybe your system has problems but mine doesn't. There was no difference in mouse function after I installed my STE. Windows still drag smoothly, my mouse responds just fine as it always has, etc. The only difference after I installed the STX was my speakers sound noticeably better.
     
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post #10 of 69
The book that came with my ASUS Sabertooth X58 does say that a pci 1 sound card connected in a pcie slot can cause problems with the pcie lanes for the gpu.
it does not specify what those problems could be.
this is also stated in the instruction download pdf for my sound blaster z on creatives web-site driver and software download page
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