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Yes it will. Check my thread. My 780 beat my 290(X) in the very same setup, using the very same settings. You haven't showed anything to counter that fact. Or the overall performance gain from the new Geforce drivers, for that matter.

290 / 780 same clock
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taken from your own thread.

That's actually bad for your 290, because 780's OC much more than 290's on average. If you look around OCN, you'll see a lot of 780's in the 1400Mhz+ range due to the Afterburner MOD. It's almost "normal" for a 780 or 770 to get above 1400Mhz, but you don't see much 290's or 290X's getting in the 1400Mhz zone tongue.gif

What's the max stable clock your 290 can get up to?
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Fried 2 Nvidia cards, fried about 7 or 8 ATI cards. Nvidia for me for quite a while.

Obviously this is a pretty personal reason, but I just find that cooking ATI cards is a sore, accidental habit frown.gif
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post #23 of 65
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At the same price the 290x gets my vote.

And yes, the 780 Ti will outperform both but really is not worth the extra money for the little bit of performance you gain.

^^ This

GTX 780 Classified will probably OC higher for benching. But if you are a gamer I think It is worth it to get 290X.
If you want my advice get the card that you feel more comfortable with out of the box, overclocking is always based on luck of the draw, you might get a dud clocking classy and then regret getting it because it can't surpass 290X performance.
Of course most Classys hit 1300 MHz+ but probably a lot of them do it with a pretty high voltage for 24/7.
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post #24 of 65
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Did you flash your 290 to 290x. Could it be that the bios was acting rather strange, since there's a disparity between your 290X and rdr09's 290 ???

I did flash it, yes. It wasn't acting strange, proof here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1452583/r9-290-vs-r9-290x-what-do-the-extra-shaders-do-for-an-overclocker-12-benchmarks-included

What ever is doing the disparity between my results and those of rdr09's, it was not in my setup and settings. I'll just leave it at that.
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post #25 of 65
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OK, performance wise 5% difference doesn't matter to me. They both perform roughly the same then.
As for temperatures and noise, would the ACX cooler be quieter than the TriX cooler, with say 75C max temperature at load.

My 3770k isn't OCed atm but I have had it at 4.6GHz in the past, I found it ran too hot (Vegas would crash on rendering) and will be considering 4.2 or 4.4GHz soon to see temperatures. I'm only a novice OCer so may have set the voltage higher than what was needed.


The R9 290 (non-X) is £340, is the extra £80 worth it for the 290X. Oddly I think the "cheaper" GTX 780 ti's are £80 more than the GTX780 Classy!!
Edited by Devotii - 4/16/14 at 4:13am
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That's actually bad for your 290, because 780's OC much more than 290's on average. If you look around OCN, you'll see a lot of 780's in the 1400Mhz+ range due to the Afterburner MOD. It's almost "normal" for a 780 or 770 to get above 1400Mhz, but you don't see much 290's or 290X's getting in the 1400Mhz zone tongue.gif

What's the max stable clock your 290 can get up to?

mine? prolly 1250 on the core. i play at stock, so. i've benched mine to 1300, which is about 1450 or more on a 780.
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post #27 of 65
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I did flash it, yes. It wasn't acting strange, proof here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1452583/r9-290-vs-r9-290x-what-do-the-extra-shaders-do-for-an-overclocker-12-benchmarks-included

What ever is doing the disparity between my results and those of rdr09's, it was not in my setup and settings. I'll just leave it at that.

look at your firestrike at 1170 MHz. that's like 1050 on the 290. you did not have to flash the 290. the problem was - silicon lottery or skills.

@op, 4.2 GHz on the cpu will suffice for any of the gpus.
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post #28 of 65
Okay Both cards are extreamly good and fast...Main misconception is that you shouldn't match the clocks to compare these cards nor should you compare refrence clocks.

Sapphire cards are nice but their pcbs are based on refence designs...That tri x cooler does kinda tame that card though but its pcb is limted

The 780ti classy is amazing and yes it comes at a jaw doping price...it is faster than that 290x but its not a fair battle

evga 780ti classified v.s msi 290x lighting is more like it

Both these cards are extreamly thermal limited and you will only see real impressive numbers when you put these cards under water and pushing custom BIOS

my vote its the 780ti budget asside,but for budget its the 290x
Edited by KLEANupguy7 - 4/16/14 at 4:31am
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OK, performance wise 5% difference doesn't matter to me. They both perform roughly the same then.
As for temperatures and noise, would the ACX cooler be quieter than the TriX cooler, with say 75C max temperature at load.

My 3770k isn't OCed atm but I have had it at 4.6GHz in the past, I found it ran too hot (Vegas would crash on rendering) and will be considering 4.2 or 4.4GHz soon to see temperatures. I'm only a novice OCer so may have set the voltage higher than what was needed.


The R9 290 (non-X) is £340, is the extra £80 worth it for the 290X. Oddly I think the "cheaper" GTX 780 ti's are £80 more than the GTX780 Classy!!

what 290? if Tri X, then go for it. oc it 60MHz and you have a 290X.
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post #30 of 65
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what 290? if Tri X, then go for it. oc it 60MHz and you have a 290X.

It is not all about mhz though, surely other things about the cards are different. Or no one would get 290x since its £80+ for a 60mhz OC.
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