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Just leave it uninstalled then. On my system, it increases my speed by a good amount lol.

Bloody hell! so there isn't a general consensus or rule about the install of IRST, it affects different systems differently.

Thanks man, I'm glad you're on these forums it is very rare to find people like you who know their stuff inside and out

cheers m8
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Not a problem mate. Happy to help! thumb.gif

Edit: There is one other thing I forget to mention. I've seen numerous reports of IRST causing conflicts with emulation software that allows you to mount an ISO image to a virtual drive. Plus, IRST can cause intermittent SSD sleeps, increased mouse lag / latency whilst gaming and improper TRIM performance.

Edit 2: Here is Sean's Guide:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds
Edited by BradleyW - 4/16/14 at 9:34am
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Not a problem mate. Happy to help! thumb.gif

Edit: There is one other thing I forget to mention. I've seen numerous reports of IRST causing conflicts with emulation software that allows you to mount an ISO image to a virtual drive. Plus, IRST can cause intermittent SSD sleeps, increased mouse lag / latency whilst gaming and improper TRIM performance.

Edit 2: Here is Sean's Guide:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds

I have been experiencing occasional mouse lags sometimes but never could've imagined it was from IRST, this is like the one thing I always installed blindly since it is in the drivers list of every laptop I have bought, even though some of them have just 1 2.5 inch bay so they could never have a RAID setup

I never mount DVDs as my games are on Steam or Origin so they are downloaded automatically that's probably why I never experienced that issue.

But thanks again, we live and learn everyday.

and I thought I knew a lot about computers! Funneh biggrin.gif
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Well, as long as you found the information useful, that's all that matters smile.gif
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Some points I'd like to make:

- You want your alignment to be at least the size of a write/erase block on the SSD, but since this isn't always easy information to find, 1024k or a multiple thereof is usually the safest bet.

- I always recommend installing the newest drivers for your SATA/AHCI/RAID controller, unless there are specific known issues with it. You can install these drivers separately of the IRST software. Personally, I just use the F6 drivers.
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Some points I'd like to make:

- You want your alignment to be at least the size of a write/erase block on the SSD, but since this isn't always easy information to find, 1024k or a multiple thereof is usually the safest bet.

- I always recommend installing the newest drivers for your SATA/AHCI/RAID controller, unless there are specific known issues with it. You can install these drivers separately of the IRST software. Personally, I just use the F6 drivers.

IRST installs the same drivers as the F6 from what I can see on my own system.
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Some points I'd like to make:

- You want your alignment to be at least the size of a write/erase block on the SSD, but since this isn't always easy information to find, 1024k or a multiple thereof is usually the safest bet.

- I always recommend installing the newest drivers for your SATA/AHCI/RAID controller, unless there are specific known issues with it. You can install these drivers separately of the IRST software. Personally, I just use the F6 drivers.

I install the ones from ASUS directly, their installer installs only the driver without the IRST app so it's the same thing.

With that huge of a performance I showed you, I am NEVER EVER gonna install them unless I have a RAID setup which I'll never do since Samsung doesn't recommend me installing my two 1 TB 840 Evo in RAID when I called them they said due to bad TRIM support and RAPID performs more than any average joe would need so the performance difference between RAID and RAPID is negligible unless we are talking benchmarks (don't quote meh on this, just from what I've read online)
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I install the ones from ASUS directly, their installer installs only the driver without the IRST app so it's the same thing.

With that huge of a performance I showed you, I am NEVER EVER gonna install them unless I have a RAID setup which I'll never do since Samsung doesn't recommend me installing my two 1 TB 840 Evo in RAID when I called them they said due to bad TRIM support and RAPID performs more than any average joe would need so the performance difference between RAID and RAPID is negligible unless we are talking benchmarks (don't quote meh on this, just from what I've read online)

Fair enough mate. I guess it just takes a bit of tinkering and testing with hardware to find the best performance and stability. Time consuming, but worth it in the end. smile.gif
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Some points I'd like to make:

- You want your alignment to be at least the size of a write/erase block on the SSD, but since this isn't always easy information to find, 1024k or a multiple thereof is usually the safest bet.

- I always recommend installing the newest drivers for your SATA/AHCI/RAID controller, unless there are specific known issues with it. You can install these drivers separately of the IRST software. Personally, I just use the F6 drivers.

I install the ones from ASUS directly, their installer installs only the driver without the IRST app so it's the same thing.

With that huge of a performance I showed you, I am NEVER EVER gonna install them unless I have a RAID setup which I'll never do since Samsung doesn't recommend me installing my two 1 TB 840 Evo in RAID when I called them they said due to bad TRIM support and RAPID performs more than any average joe would need so the performance difference between RAID and RAPID is negligible unless we are talking benchmarks (don't quote meh on this, just from what I've read online)


That performance difference is from having SAMSNG RAPID mode enabled vs disabled...

 

And RAPID is useless btw.

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That performance difference is from having SAMSNG RAPID mode enabled vs disabled...

And RAPID is useless btw.

the benchmarks show RAPID smoking non rapid by almost double the score, how is it useless?
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