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Need help on which HD to get for backups please.

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I am in need of one or two backup drives 2-4TB. I need a reliable drive that will not break the bank unless it is actually worth the extra for performance and reliability. I plan on using them either in a external solution not running when computer is on unless for backups or internally which would run with the main computer at all times it is on.
    
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I use Western Digital Greens for my backups. They are a good compromise of price and reliability, especially since they don't run 24/7 ( they usually run no more than maybe five or ten minutes a day). They also have a three year warranty.

If money isn't an object, the WD blacks would be nice—five year warranty and snappier performance—but I feel that would be overkill for a backup drive. I run Blacks in my desktop machine since it runs 24/7.

Using drives internally for backups is a really bad idea. The things that can kill your data on your main internal drives—viruses, other malware, hardware failure, accidental deletion, etc.—can also kill your backup drives if left connected to the computer. Drives stored disconnected and away from the computer are far safer for backups.
     
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I am actually very much pleased with the Seagate USB3.0 external drives I have, paid $99 on sale @ micro center for a number of the 3TB ones, and it turns out that the drives are the latest Barracuda 1TB/Platter models. Speeds are usually 145-165MB/sec read or write, andtested llatency is quite impressive to me for an external bus drive (14.5-16.2ms).

Definitely recommend going external, and NEVER EVER having the drives plugged into the computer OR wall AT ANY TIME OTHER THAN when you are actively transferring data.
I highly recommend rotating drives, keeping at least one in a highly secure offsite location (safety deposit box), and the ones in your home keep as physically distant from the PC and each other as possible. The idea is to do everything within reason to ensure that you are not performing "pointless backups".
   
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I aim to keep the backups offsite/ not on pc and still unsure which to get if greens are realiable which reviews say other wise those seem to be the best option i do have a seagate 3.0 ext i bought a while ago for a backup but had ot put into a better external case sicne it was begging for air and getting rather hot. I do liek to backup programs i use as i update them regualy incase of a system fail. I do use a ups with a Avr on my pc and monitors.Could you specify the exact model of the seagate is the 1TB platter ones?
    
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I wouldn't worry about 1TB platters; the speed difference on bench tests may be impressive but just isn't that noticeable in actual use. Besides, speed isn't an issue when making backups. If using USB 2.0 to connect to a backup HDD, a 7200rpm HDD won't transfer data any faster than a 5400rpm drive. USB 3.0 and 6.0Gbps e-SATA will allow faster transfers but the difference won't be particularly noticeable since you will probably start the backup and walk away to let it do its thing. I use FreeFileSync for my backups and, even using the 5400rpm Greens, my backups rarely take more than 10-15 minutes; usually it's more like five minutes. Speed and initial cost aren't the only criteria for judging a HDD. Factors such as reliability, length of life, warranty length, noise, operating temperature, etc. are also important.

Seagates cost less than Western Digitals but the WDs have longer warranties which strongly suggests they are better quality. Customer reviews generally show WD handles warranty claims much better than Seagate. Seagate also has shortened its warranty lengths.

I've owned eight WD Greens. Of those, only one has ever failed; it was one the early HDDs that had the head parking issue. that was fixed a long time ago. the other seven are doing just fine. I also have two WD Blacks One has been running 24/7 for the past 14 months and the other has been running the same amount of time in my present machine and also ran non-stop for a couple, three years in my previous machine. Both are chugging right along.

I've owned only two 3.5" Seagates. Both failed on me; one after a year of use and the other shortly after I got it. I've had a couple 2.5" Seagates that work ok and a 2.5" Seagate SSHD that was a bit of a disappointment.
     
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Which version of western digital green should i get 2,3,or 4TB I would just buy two usb 3.0 enclosures or use my current one when transferring files. Usb 3.0 is very nice for backups i hated usb 2.0 and haven't used that for backups in nearly 2 years. My WD Black 1TB is nearly 7+ years old and it still has no read errors and is very fast for its age. My WD black has 14938 power on hours and 3714 power cycle count. I have been quite impressed with it. That is why i bought another WD black 2TB for extra space.
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What size you get depends on how much data you need to back up and how much you anticipate you will need in the next few years. As nleksan suggested, you should keep at least two backups; one onsite and one offsite, and rotate them as frequently as possible.

It is said there are only two kinds of HDDs: one that has failed and one that is going to fail, no matter what the quality (that also applies to SSDs). Because of that, I'm really anal about backups. I keep two identical local backups at home and two more in a safe deposit box at my credit union for every HDD I have in service in my desktop (I make images of my OS/Programs SSDs and put those on a data drive in my desktop machine—same for my notebook images—so they will get backed up with my data to cut down on the separate operations I have to perform; yes, I'm lazy). I swap those out at least once a month, more often if I'm dumping a lot of data onto my computer. The idea is I will be less likely to lose some or all of my data if a local HDD should go belly up since the offsite backups will be missing any data added since the last swap. That policy saved my bacon...er...data once when I corrupted one of my local backups (user error blushsmiley.gif ) trying to recover from a program caused corruption of my data on a HDD in my machine (I no longer use that idiot program); I was able to recover from that FUBAR with the second drive. If I had had to depend on just an offsite backup, I would have lost over 20GB of data I had added since the last swap (ouch!). Even though an offsite backup will lack some data, having one is better than not having one in case you do lose your local backup. An encrypted cloud backup (a good paid one, not a freebie) will ensure that you have all your data backed up offsite but recovery would be excruciatingly slow if you ever had to recover everything from online. Offsite HDDs can be used to quickly recover the bulk of any lost data and the cloud backup can then be used to recover any remaining lost data.
     
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Although W.D Green are suitable for backup but I had bad experience with them and the blue ones !! however the black and red are much better but since you need this drive for backup I recommend to you Seagate.

4TB currently at $155
http://amzn.com/B00B99JU4S
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Thanks for all the help i will get a safety deposit box so i can have two backups of all the important things. I do not trust the seatage 3TB i use atm since it is out of warrenty and already has smart errors one is cause of the crappy case it came in as a external and others are read/write errors. To save money and space i think it would be best to use one external enclosure the one i have has esata and usb3.0 with a external power supply and a fan. All enclosed in a aluminum shell. I may jsut end up purchasing two for now sincei ened ot watch how much $ i spend. I appreciate all the help and advice everyone on here has given me. Thanks so much. biggrin.gif
    
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My friends always had all kind of problems with external USB hard drives so I never use them however instead of copying everything twice and worry about your precious data then why not use Google drive

https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375123?hl=en

You will get a peace of mind, your data always safe and accessible everywhere.
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