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post #21 of 73
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Originally Posted by Yorkston View Post

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($60.14 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($152.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $548.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-16 18:58 EDT-0400)

Just a hair under $575 if you ignore the mail-in rebates. I would advise against FM2+ (APU/Athlon) if possible, $575 is within the price range for the better 6300 and you will actually have an upgrade path with AM3+.

Are the benchmarks with the 6300 better than the FM2??
post #22 of 73
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Originally Posted by Telschow View Post

Which one do you mean exactly? Is this PSU better than the CORSAIR CXM 430W??
The Rosewill Capstone 450 is overall a lot better than the CX430 for just $10 more. If you must have a modular PSU, then there's also that Rosewill Capstone 450-M as well for $10 more also. thumb.gif
Edited by Baghi - 4/17/14 at 2:43am
post #23 of 73
Recently did a fairly budget re-build for my son, after his FM1 mobo failed.
Used the Coolermaster G550M 80+ Bronze PSU, Semi Modular, incredibly quiet (as quiet as my V700.) and a big 5 year warranty.
but only get this over the corsair if it is cheaper smile.gif

Considering the fact that you are getting a discrete GPU, you won't need to go with an APU unless you intend to crossfire it with the 250/265 gpu.

I agree with others that 8gb Ram is all you need at the moment and an easy/cheap upgrade in the future.

Did you do a price comparison with Haswell i3's ?
    
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The Rosewill Capstone 450 is overall a lot better than the CX430 for just $10 more. If you must have a modular PSU, then there's also that Rosewill Capstone 450-M as well for $10 more also. thumb.gif

The modular PSU for only 10$ more is just awesome. smile.gif
post #25 of 73
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Originally Posted by BakerMan1971 View Post

Recently did a fairly budget re-build for my son, after his FM1 mobo failed.
Used the Coolermaster G550M 80+ Bronze PSU, Semi Modular, incredibly quiet (as quiet as my V700.) and a big 5 year warranty.
but only get this over the corsair if it is cheaper smile.gif

Considering the fact that you are getting a discrete GPU, you won't need to go with an APU unless you intend to crossfire it with the 250/265 gpu.

I agree with others that 8gb Ram is all you need at the moment and an easy/cheap upgrade in the future.

Did you do a price comparison with Haswell i3's ?

Which i3? the 4340??
post #26 of 73
well to be in the same price range as the athlon I would go as low as the 4130, or with the reduction to 8gb ram maybe even the i5 4430 or 4440 which are pretty good value right now, of course my son does some video editing and is blown away by the performance increase and the extra 'pep' his pc now has, his games however are no different from when he was running his FM1 cpu (he has an evga 650TI gpu), While benchmarks and Fraps show an increase in performance, gameplay has no noticable difference in the likes of TF2 for him.
    
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post #27 of 73
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The progress until now is:

CPU: AMD A10-7850K Kaveri 3.7GHz Socket FM2+ 95W Quad-Core or AMD Athlon X4 760K or AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor

Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E45 FM2+ or MSI A78M-E45 FM2+ or Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+

GPU: MSI R7 250 2GD3 OC Radeon or Radeon R7 260X or PowerColor Radeon R7 265 2GB

RAM: Definitely 8GB

PSU: Corsair CX430 or XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX or Rosewill Capstone 450(Maybe Modular)

Case: It is more like a personal choice.

Adding: Maybe a 120GB SSD

Thanks for the quick ideas and comments smile.gif
post #28 of 73
"Considering the fact that you are getting a discrete GPU, you won't need to go with an APU unless you intend to crossfire it with the 250/265 gpu."
I would suggest going with an APU that you could put into crossfire.
I forget where the video is, but on youtube it shows the performance of the setups with various APU's and GPU's and their performance @ 1080p
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post #29 of 73
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"Considering the fact that you are getting a discrete GPU, you won't need to go with an APU unless you intend to crossfire it with the 250/265 gpu."
I would suggest going with an APU that you could put into crossfire.
I forget where the video is, but on youtube it shows the performance of the setups with various APU's and GPU's and their performance @ 1080p

Which APU you suggest??
post #30 of 73
Like someone said, the point of an APU is it's powerful integrated graphics which obviously you won't need if you're getting a discrete GPU. An Athlon X4 760K (or 750K) is basically an A10 with graphics disabled making it almost identical to the FX-4300 but for socket FM2. My advice to you would be to get one of AM3 CPU with compatible motherboard that supports more powerful FX series of CPU as well so that you can upgrade to a better processor in the future when you need more horsepower but with a socket like FM2 you may have a chance of being stuck because we've already seen AMD is more interested in improving graphics of the APU rather than the IPC.

EDIT1:
This whole "you can Crossfire an APU with a discrete card" is underwhelmed. Multi-GPU configurations have their own set of problems and not at all recommended for everyone, unless he/she already has the most powerful graphics card on the planet and asking for more. One must almost always opt for a best possible single GPU solution within given budget. Not just this, but only selective AMD low-end GPUs can be Crossfired (?) with those APUs but not all.

EDIT2:
IMO the build that @Yorkston recommended overall looks good.
Edited by Baghi - 4/17/14 at 6:14am
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