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Which APU you suggest??
I honestly couldn't say, I've not got the money to dabble in APU's yet.
This isn't the video I was talking about but it is showing one combination

looking for the video now though
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Like someone said, the point of an APU is it's powerful integrated graphics which obviously you won't need if you're getting a discrete GPU. An Athlon X4 760K (or 750K) is basically an A10 with graphics disabled making it almost identical to the FX-4300 but for socket FM2. My advice to you would be to get one of AM3 CPU with compatible motherboard that supports more powerful FX series of CPU as well so that you can upgrade to a better processor in the future when you need more horsepower but with a socket like FM2 you may have a chance of being stuck because we've already seen AMD is more interested in improving graphics of the APU rather than the IPC.

EDIT1:
This whole "you can Crossfire an APU with a discrete card" is underwhelmed. Multi-GPU configurations have their own set of problems and not at all recommended for everyone, unless he/she already has the most powerful graphics card on the planet and asking for more. One must almost always opt for a best possible single GPU solution within given budget. Not just this, but only selective AMD low-end GPUs can be Crossfired (?) with those APUs but not all.

EDIT2:
IMO the build that @Yorkston recommended overall looks good.

Good idea.

You mean a AMD FX-4300 Vishera 3.8GHz (4.0GHz) Socket AM3+ processor with the MSI 970A-G43 AM3+ motherboard? smile.gif
post #33 of 73
While the AM3+ idea is good to begin with, the problem may arise from obtaining the suggested upgraded CPU in the future.
I see the AM3 technology being phased out and less available at retailers, surely the best future proofing is to choose a current socket?
    
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Cool! I Iove FPS, so i love the way this sounds.

The APU works together with the GPU to get a better performance on Gaming.

Thanks for the video smile.gif

Which socket do you suggest??
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post #35 of 73
well I would go 1150 or FM2+ , if I was making a choice. Current tech is well priced for a budget system, and upgrades should be readily available for the next 2-3 years.

FM1 AM3+ 1155 etc are all outgoing, so upgrading after a purchase would be hitting the second hand market, which while most of the time is ok, runs the risk of issues making it a more expensive choice in the long run.

If prices where you are from allow, I would certainly go for an Intel chip, otherwise the aforementioned Athlon chips will be fine, I agree with the others that crossfiring with a small GPU and APU has its difficulties which would detract from gaming, these days you don't want to spend too much time fiddling around with drivers/configurations to try and get something working.

If for any reason the equivalent APU was cheaper, you can always disable that component by switching it off in the bios.
    
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well I would go 1150 or FM2+ , if I was making a choice. Current tech is well priced for a budget system, and upgrades should be readily available for the next 2-3 years.

FM1 AM3+ 1155 etc are all outgoing, so upgrading after a purchase would be hitting the second hand market, which while most of the time is ok, runs the risk of issues making it a more expensive choice in the long run.

If prices where you are from allow, I would certainly go for an Intel chip, otherwise the aforementioned Athlon chips will be fine, I agree with the others that crossfiring with a small GPU and APU has its difficulties which would detract from gaming, these days you don't want to spend too much time fiddling around with drivers/configurations to try and get something working.

If for any reason the equivalent APU was cheaper, you can always disable that component by switching it off in the bios.

I have seen that the APU equivalent is cheaper than a FM2+ or the 1150.

I could disable the crossfire, like you said. thumb.gif
post #37 of 73
If I'm not wrong the Intel 1150 might also not see new CPUs or if anything, CPUs with very little performance improvements. FM2+ might have new processors but the gains won't be anything to go mad about (on the CPU side that is). Currently, the CPUs we have are much more powerful than ever, so even going with LGA 1155 can last a couple of years with a decent overclocked i5-2500K or an i7-2600K. These guys are enough to to push any high-end GPU to it's maximums and by the time they're not we might be in a complete different era of technology. However, your call.
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If I'm not wrong the Intel 1150 might also not see new CPUs or if anything, CPUs with very little performance improvements. FM2+ might have new processors but the gains won't be anything to go mad about (on the CPU side that is). Currently, the CPUs we have are much more powerful than ever, so even going with LGA 1155 can last a couple of years with a decent overclocked i5-2500K or an i7-2600K. These guys are enough to to push any high-end GPU to it's maximums and by the time they're not we might be in a complete different era of technology. However, your call.

So true.

I would pay more for a better GPU than for a CPU.
post #39 of 73
Socket 1150 is to be used for Broadwell, the new Z97 boards coming out next month will support CPU's up to Skylake which is released sometime in 2016. So 1150 has at least until the end of 2015 to remain a current socket.

FM2+ is AMD's current socket, and if the lifespan of previous sockets is anything to go by you will have that around until the end of 2016 I would reckon.

Future CPU performance gains, are in question as manufacturers strive to aim for lower power consumption, however grabbing Vishera which is an outgoing tech and upgrading to a slightly better Vishera (most likely used CPU) further down the line, is definitely not as attractive as grabbing current tech.


*** all my info is based on current reading, we will have to wait until things are released to see how they perform and how compatible they are ***
    
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Currently there's only information about Haswell refresh parts. But it's bit too early to talk about Skylake.
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