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r0ach
- As noted by several other people, probably the best mouse sensor ever released

For me this is big news. If i am not wrong r0ach is probably the most hard to please about sensor performance person in this forum. I believe is just matter of time until more products with this sensor come up, Logitech or others.

About G9, Logitech isnt stupid. Something tells me we will see a successor sooner or later. Cant wait for more implementations biggrin.gif

Hey r0ach, can you please post some details and be more specific about sensor performance ? Did you run enotus etc etc ? Analyse your conclusions, will be nice.
post #22 of 220
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Originally Posted by Ino. View Post

If many people would have loved the G9(x) then it would have sold much better than it did. As it obviously did not sell well there was no successor yet.
There's a lot out there that obviously loves the G9x, but it's to small a lot to make a new version viable apparently.

The only reason that the G9x didn't sell good was because they where charging $100 for a laser mouse back in the day when you had the DA 3G which had a much sensor being sold for $59. On top of that you had people still using MX510/518, IME3.0, and IMO1.1 that were proven mice for fps etc, IMO they released the G9x at the wrong period of time.
Edited by ronal - 4/16/14 at 6:01pm
post #23 of 220
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Even with the heavy weight, the sensor is really so good on this mouse compared to all the trash that's out there on the market, I'll be using this for a long time unless they release a lighter version. Somewhere between 90 and 105ish grams max seems like the ideal mouse weight to me personally. If you balance the weight on the mouse properly, a 100g mouse actually feels much lighter and most people that have used a Xai before will probably be able to know what I mean.

It's really a shame they screwed up the mouse feet on this thing by listening to a small, neanderthal tribe making up 0.000000001% of the user base that wanted 200 gram mice with adjustable weights.
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Originally Posted by Mastoras78 View Post

For me this is big news. If i am not wrong r0ach is probably the most hard to please about sensor performance person in this forum. I believe is just matter of time until more products with this sensor come up, Logitech or others.

Yes, the 10+ years Dark Ages of mouse sensors seems to be over.

It's hard to compare G502 to older opticals like the 3500 DPI A3090 because the frame rate on the G502 feels much higher, probably twice as high, and similar to the 12,000 frame rate laser levels. If you can imagine how a G9x would feel without acceleration, that's basically how it feels.

By looking at pictures of this mouse, most people will think it's a heavy palm grip mouse. I was surprised when I picked it up to learn that it's a heavy claw grip mouse.

I actually take back the part about having a forced grip style being bad. The grip shape on the mouse is pretty nice, it's just the weight that is going to mess your wrist up. I feel like I've damaged my wrist by using a G400 with a claw grip for only 2 years previous to using this mouse due to the weight.
Edited by r0ach - 4/16/14 at 6:35pm
post #24 of 220
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- Scroll wheel is made of a combination of solid lead and depleted uranium, which throws the mouse balance off. It also sticks up too high and is awkward to use as a bindable key in games. Low profile, low weight, rubber wheels are always superior for any gaming purpose such as on the Diamondback, Xai, etc.
I have used the G502 yet, but after using Logitech's smooth scrolling wheels over the years, I can never use a cruddy all rubber/plastic clicky wheel again. All metal sounds like it's deservedly turning people off, but the rubber banding that was around the rest of the metal on the rest of the mice with the free spinning system was super great.
For most hardcore games, the chances are that you don't even need a wheel on your mouse. May as well have a good wheel for when you're using it outside games though. Can't tell you how many on-sale G9s I've bought as office mice just for that wheel.
If Logitech is the only manufacturer allowed to use this system, better believe I always want a comfortable model available from them with it.
post #25 of 220
I would add price to the list of cons... I mean, here in Spain Logitech is asking 82€ for it, or around $113!!!! That's just ridiculous. I've never seen a wired mouse that pricey in my life.
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post #26 of 220
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G9X is by far the most popular Korean SC2 pro-gaming mouse, despite no SC2 team being sponsored by Logitech.

CJ Entus is. Their LoL team uses their headsets so it's hard not to notice.
post #27 of 220
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CJ Entus is. Their LoL team uses their headsets so it's hard not to notice.
I stand corrected ^^. It's pretty recent though, definitely much after the G9X was super popular.
post #28 of 220
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By looking at pictures of this mouse, most people will think it's a heavy palm grip mouse. I was surprised when I picked it up to learn that it's a heavy claw grip mouse.

You can definitely palm grip this mouse too, right?
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post #29 of 220
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Logitech isnt stupid.

I strongly disagree.

Check out the M45, it's not even 100g and it includes a weight system for those who need it a bit heavier. This is understandable. The G502 at 121g empty doesn't need a weight system, it needs a redesign.

The free scrolling system would work perfectly fine with a plastic and rubber wheel that weighs much less. Sure it won't spin for as long as the heavy metal one does but why does it need to? You're using it to scroll through web pages and a plastic wheel will scroll through those pages MUCH faster than your eyes/brain can read anyways.

These two design choices are the definition of stupid.
Edited by Derp - 4/16/14 at 8:25pm
post #30 of 220
so, i want a mouse with the g502 sensor that is 85-95 grams not including the cable, with onboard memory, no more then 2 side buttons. no less then 1 side button. On the top, the lmb, rmb, scroll wheel and no more then 1 additional button. And preferably for LGS to get Linux compatibility.
Edited by Atavax - 4/16/14 at 9:08pm
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