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post #1 of 10
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I've wiped my 2nd 1 TB 840 EVO twice using diskpart, cleaned it, then reconverted it to GPT

When I create a partition using Disk Management, it seems like it is creating a system partition before the beginning of my C: partition

According to Paragon Alignment tool, that partition is not partitioned and cannot be partitioned:

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But according to AS SSD, it doesn't say it isn't partitioned:

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a few questions:

1) When I used to create partitions on an HDD, it never created any system partition as that 2nd HDD is NOT a system partition, so why is that 128 MB partition being created? for what purpose?

2) Can I safely delete it or would it mess things up?

3) Should I be concerned since Paragon Alignment Tool is saying it cannot be aligned? I like seeing green stuff... not RED as the image shows rolleyes.gif

Please help meh I'm a n00b!3
post #2 of 10
You supposedly need the MS Reserved Partition on a system drive using GPT because such tables cannot use hidden sectors as MBR can. It is probably adding that partition by default because it has no way of knowing if you are installing a second system for dual-boot.

Provided that you're not using logical drives instead of standard static drives, you don't need an MSRP at all. I installed Windows 7 on GPT without issue, writing my own tables using gdisk. That precious 128 MB was worth it to me.

Delete both the MSRP and D: drive and use a GPT tool that will let you allocate the whole drive to the D: partition. I use gdisk which is found on any live Linux distribution. I have a hunch that it won't complain about sector alignment after that point.
post #3 of 10
The red thing is simply the system partition that's been created by windows. It is off limits to the user and it would be unsafe to remove it. So, your wondering what it is and why? Well, it's the boot files that allow windows to load every time you switch on the computer. So deleting it would stop windows from being able to boot in many cases. It's normal for this area of the drive to be reported as non aligned.

The thing is, the partition is aligned, but the system is safe guarding that virtual partition to uphold the integrity of the data it contains, therefore it will not give you information about the partition. In other words, it is normal and you should forget about it. smile.gif
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The red thing is simply the system partition that's been created by windows. It is off limits to the user and it would be unsafe to remove it. So, your wondering what it is and why? Well, it's the boot files that allow windows to load every time you switch on the computer. So deleting it would stop windows from being able to boot in many cases. It's normal for this area of the drive to be reported as non aligned.

The thing is, the partition is aligned, but the system is safe guarding that virtual partition to uphold the integrity of the data it contains, therefore it will not give you information about the partition. In other words, it is normal and you should forget about it. smile.gif

that is strange, because I make sure to always have on drive when installing Windows to prevent it from putting any boot files on the 2nd drive if that's how I understood from what you wrote...

so you're saying I shouldn't worry about it and no need to reformat hat drive in MBR to get rid of it? no performance loss?
post #5 of 10
That is not a boot partition but an MSRP, as I already stated. It's obvious because it's 128 MB, like the MSRP on your primary disk. If it was a boot partition, it would be 100 MB.

I would only say it's normal to see the complaint that it's improperly aligned because Microsoft either won't fix whatever bug causes this to happen or did something intentionally wrong because they're Microsoft. When you use a partition tool that just works, such as gdisk, it will never complain about this unless you do something purposefully wrong.

As I suggested before, you can have format the drive with GPT without the need for an MSRP. Simply use another tool if the one your currently using refuses to allow you to do this.
post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by kingcrabmeat View Post

That is not a boot partition but an MSRP, as I already stated. It's obvious because it's 128 MB, like the MSRP on your primary disk. If it was a boot partition, it would be 100 MB.

I would only say it's normal to see the complaint that it's improperly aligned because Microsoft either won't fix whatever bug causes this to happen or did something intentionally wrong because they're Microsoft. When you use a partition tool that just works, such as gdisk, it will never complain about this unless you do something purposefully wrong.

As I suggested before, you can have format the drive with GPT without the need for an MSRP. Simply use another tool if the one your currently using refuses to allow you to do this.

oh thanks a lot, I just happened to buy MiniTool Partition Wizard Pro today, let me see if it can fix this
post #7 of 10
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Using MiniTool Partition Wizard Pro, I deleted the MSR partition, then resized the disk and now it's gone and the partition is still properly aligned smile.gif

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Now the alignment of the 2nd disk changed from 132096K to 1024K

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Edited by berryracer - 4/16/14 at 3:13pm
post #8 of 10
In future when installing Windows, make sure you clean the drives and align them to 1024, then format via quick NTFS. It should save you a lot of trouble in future, but for now, leave things alone if you like, and enjoy the SSD's. Also, my mistake for saying it was the boot drive. I did not read the number correctly and mistaken it for 100mb.
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yes, don't worry m8

 

thanks

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yes, don't worry m8

thanks

The appreciate the forgiveness. My eyes are really tired from programming all day. smile.gif
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