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haha suckless has been popular today
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Very much so thumb.gif

Told you I spend a lot of time on there, lol. I use at least... %60-70 of their projects ninja.gif
post #53 of 58
Who ever wrote their piece on DWM has a corncob up his waste evacuation system. I can get the frustration of someone asking a question you'd expect out of a grandma but..
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Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it’s pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and elitist. No novices asking stupid questions. There are some distributions that provide binary packages though.

The guy obviously thinks machines/computers shouldn't be useful tools.

PS: Couldn't one basically shatter his statement by distributing with a script to automate building and customizing? Then right there you've opened the door for "noobs" like myself?
     
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Who ever wrote their piece on DWM has a corncob up his waste evacuation system. I can get the frustration of someone asking a question you'd expect out of a grandma but..
The guy obviously thinks machines/computers shouldn't be useful tools.

PS: Couldn't one basically shatter his statement by distributing with a script to automate building and customizing? Then right there you've opened the door for "noobs" like myself?

Window managers like DWM are ten to the dozen. So my advice is if you don't like their elitism then let them play with themselves (both figuratively and literally speaking) and instead use a WM which is less hostile to users like yourself.
post #55 of 58
[qI agree to a certain point. There are a lot like DWM, but I've not found any that I like quite as much as it in terms of simplicity. That and it's source code is absolutely easy to run through and understand that many people over at the Arch forums got into C++ by learning to hack DWM and opened up quite a few doors for them. Also, I would just say to ignore that statement for the most part. DWM's configuration file is easy to understand even for a beginner and running `make` and `sudo make install clean` is really not hard at all as well. Only really takes basic knowledge to get started.
post #56 of 58
To be honest I've not spent a whole lot of time on DWM. AwesomeWM was my tiling WM of choice generally I prefer a full fat DE.
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Hmm...is the whole website written by the same guy because I stumbled across a part on a separate page talking about the stupidity of large code and that is something I could agree with.

@Plan9: It was just the general tone of that paragraph that just ate at me. Kind of like a taunt and I always fall prey to those. redface.gif

@Shrak: I'm figuring the code better be easy to understand if it's to match the toted philosophy it has to live up to. Might screw with it one day next week but I kind of find openbox and E17/19 my go to for lightweights.

Didn't mean to vent it is just the attitude that "I can figure it out why can't you?" is something I hate. Sorry.
     
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. Otherwise I'd just drop X altogether and go full tmux for all my tiling needs.

As to file managers though, I'm not a fan of them at all for anything outside of pictures or videos that are helpful to have a visual aid.


The biggest reason I don't bother with KDE apps for the most part is one of the hottest topics and something that is supposedly being worked on. And that is that if you have a program that requires even 1 library from KDE, then you have to download the whole of KDE. And this to me, is a "no es bueno" situation. I like keeping things light and small. I keep my root partition at about 4GB's on most installs which is just enough for the kernel, the inevitable GTK libs from having Firefox and my basic software. This leaves me with the most space for other, quite frankly, more important things on my home / storage partitions ( all backed up regularly of course ).

Judging by this you really aren't at all far from never needing more than multi-user terminal and that's a good thing for people to know.... that you can actually do a lot just from there, especially if they break X. Hopefully, they know there are clients that can put you in touch with help even just from terminal.

That said, and even as comfortable as I am on terminal only, I didn't work this hard nor spend this much time and money to not have eye candy bling when it doesn't get in the way, so although I boot to CLI and get things done there, usually I'm in X pretty quickly, and I suppose I spent way too much time on early GUIs where File Manager was God, so I require a GOOD one.

I'm not sure I understand this concept of having to install "the whole thing" regarding KDE. When KDE4 dropped KPackage, which I love, installing a few libraries brought it back for me. There is a video on youtube of how to install Kwin on Xubuntu (he says it isn't exactly Xubuntu but it has zero Gnome or KDE on it) and he downloads the following
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kde-Window-Manager-common
kde-Window-Manager
kwin-style-qtcurve
kde-window-manager-gles
kde-style-skulpture
kdeartwork-theme-window
qtcurve
kwin-style-crystal
kwin-style-skulpture
kde-window-manager-active
kde-window-manager-active-gles
kwin-style-dekorator

This is enough to get the full Kwin compositor along with all the themes, decorations, effects, icons, etc. etc. etc. The video stays active while he downloads and installs through Synaptic and it takes less than 3 minutes for all of it and this guy is not fast LOL. That doesn't seem like very much to me, but then I haven't been a minimalist for a long time. In any case it isn't anywhere close to "the whole of KDE".
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