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I know personally on the PSU side I wasn't able to run with just a 750 but my system itself is a little more power hungry than yours @AvengerNoonZz so 1000+ definitely the way to go.
On another note but still relevant cause the talk of PSUs I just got my second 295x2 and right now for testing I'm using three PSUs. Here is what I'm pulling from the wall.
First is idle, second is fire strike extreme and third is fire strike with an OC on the cards (no voltage increase). So for me it looks like I'll be getting a 1600.
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devil.gif I should daisy chain my three biggrin.gif


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Mine aren't even daisy chained just jumped green and a black then one is for each GPU the third is the MoBo.
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i am sorry what was the general consensus to why the 295x2 throttled at 75 and not 95 like normal 290xs, and could you please respond in the quoted thread, ... thanks
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No the devil 13 is NOT a 295x2.

It is just 2 290x cores on one pcb, and they are not the same the devil 13 was also released earlier then a 295x2

If power color made them throttle so low that is due to them.

If you don't believe me about the 295 throttling to protect the pump, come ask in the 295 thread.
I know, I have quad 290x and 2 295s

Okay first thing is first. A 295x2 is AMDs name for a dual 290x card, anycard that has dual 290x gpus follows AMDs designs plans of a 295x2. 295x2 is the reference cards name nothing more, they can call it whatever they want it is still a 295x2.

"and they are not the same the devil 13 was also released earlier then a 295x2 " No it wasn't, nor could it be GPU partners dont just start making cards, if AMD doesn't make a Dual GPU reference design then board partners do not make one period. Same thing with Nvidia, Amd and Nvidia make the cards those are your reference models, then they allow certain changes to be made from board partners. I do not know where you are getting this but its incorrect. Below is the dates for you.

295x2 - April 21, 2014
Devil 13 - around June 15,14

"If power color made them throttle so low that is due to them. " You are right I suppose they could have edited in there custom bios, however they did not nor did Asus AFAIK.

"If you don't believe me about the 295 throttling to protect the pump," again I dont need to ask anyone, what you are saying doesn't pan out for anyone that knows anything about liquid cooling. If your GPUs are at 75c your water is more like 30c a pump can operate upwards of 50c your water is not hitting anywhere near 50c.

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No, my cards are watercooled. uplugging it is like having it out anyways and just having one. you don't have to pull it out. you prolly don't have to unplug. i just do it.

1. disable crossfire
2 shutdown and unplug power to second card
3. boot uninstall old driver with 12 or 13 driver (older drivers have uninstall feature)
4. Reboot and install new driver
5. Shutdown and plug second card
6. Boot and crossfire should set itself. if not, then set it yourself.

These steps i do to both my amd and intel. but, like i said before, i normally just install the new over the old after steps 1 & 2. i followed the steps above for crimson and omega.

Umm I am 90% sure a gpu will still get power and still be recognized with just the 6 pins removed. As a mater of fact it would have to be or your idea would not work. As we both pointed out to you already it doesnt work that way.

If you have 1 card installed and try to add a second without reinstalling drivers it will not work, SLI does but CFX does not. Both cards have to be installed at the time of the driver install to unlock CF ability's. I ran into this when I got my second 290x as I did not know this and for days couldn't get CFX to work, I asked here and TSM told me that.

I do agree about the removing Water Cooled cards thing sucks though I love that my RIVBE can shut off PCIE lanes with switches best feature ever!.

omg

so hard, now i remember why i blocked you

http://www.powercolor.com/us/products_features.asp?id=549
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devil 13 dual core 290x
you can find it under products and searching for 290x
http://www.powercolor.com/us/products_search_VGA.asp?Bus=&Generation=RADEON+R9+290X&Series=&MemerySize=&MemoryInterface=&ByIntention=&ByUniqueFeature=&submit=Search

under 295x2s you cant
http://www.powercolor.com/us/products_search_VGA.asp?Bus=&Generation=RADEON+R9+295X2&Series=&MemerySize=&MemoryInterface=&ByIntention=&ByUniqueFeature=&submit=Search

crap in ones can not be compared to WATER COOLING

crap in ones water, if the cores on the 295x2s could reach 95 like normal 290/290x then the water could SATURATE and get to 75, ( seriously have you seen how crappy asecrap is ?) again
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Has anyone found any reviews of using different fans on the R9 295X2's radiator? I can't find any myself...

I have 2x Cougar Turbines and 2x SP120 Quiets and would like to know how they perform.

Here ya go: http://www.overclock.net/t/1540259/r9-295x2-rad-fan-shootout/0_50

The SP120's do quite well, i'm running a couple of Noctua iPPC NF-F12's on mine and the Cougar's should perform well too smile.gif

Thanks smile.gif

Oh, also is there a way to disable the red LED?

Yes!

Under the shroud you can unplug the LED's power cable, taking off the shroud is quite easy and will not void your warranty smile.gif

The LED has its own power cable? +1 AMD.
It really annoys me launching and having to install the bloatware that is known as GF Experience JUST to turn off the LED on my GTX 690.

Coming from Nvidia's "best" dual GPU to AMD's best. I really am going to be interested to see the difference redface.gif
One thing I love that almost no reviews seem to mention is the customizability of the cooling - simply change out the fans for different ones.



I heard/read that the 295X2 has a thermal throttle of 75'c - whereas the 290Xs have a higher throttle (85'c?). Seeing as how the R9 295X2 should have binned 290X cores - surely the thermal throttle is just for the AIO cooler / heat / power draw. Is it safe going beyond it (with a BIOS flash on the one BIOS to disable it)?

Purely for benchmarking, I will be running this thing stock 24/7 otherwise redface.gif

here is the cable:



And yeah, the 295x2 throttles at 75c due to the amount of heat the pump can withstand afaik, the 290x has a throttle point of 95c.

i have the Sapphire OC Bios flashed onto my card and it runs quite well, haven't tried any hard benching but with the stock Bios i managed 1150/1625 with +100mV in Afterburner.

With the Sapphire Bios i can go up to +300mV in Sapphire Trixx.....waiting for cooler weather though tongue.gif

since you wont ask

@wermad @Sgt Bilko and anyone else
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i am sorry what was the general consensus to why the 295x2 throttled at 75 and not 95 like normal 290xs, and could you please respond in the quoted thread, ... thanks
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Its not a consensus. Its a fact. The Asetek AIO cooler's pumps were not designed to handle high water temps that going above 75C would cause.
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Its not a consensus. Its a fact. The Asetek AIO cooler's pumps were not designed to handle high water temps that going above 75C would cause.

^ Bingo
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can you please respond in the other thread, seems i am just a crazy wacko you can just click the little text balloon with the green arrow by my name in that quote
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I guess I found a solution:




Too bad for the other members who are being mislead...They may want to get a 295x2 or a 290X x2 in the future....?
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I guess I found a solution: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Too bad for the other members who are being mislead...They may want to get a 295x2 or a 290X x2 in the future....?

My brain hurts now after all that doh.gif
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Originally Posted by BigCatRoach View Post

Mine aren't even daisy chained just jumped green and a black then one is for each GPU the third is the MoBo.


Oops, sorry missed your post among the funs going on right now.


I think you do have to daisy chain them in order for the mb to send the power on signal (via the green and black lines), otherwise, it may power on the cards separately and the mb may not detect a signal. I have a "jumper cable, which is probably the most common approach:





I used this cable to run quad 7970 Lightning BE's oc'd for the fanboy competition circa 2014. Used two V1000s in tandem. This time, i got a sweet deal on three (white!) NZXT Hale90s and I'll be chaining two of them to run my setup; the 1kw will power the first card and the mb/fans/pumps and the first 750w is only powering on the second 295x2. The second 750w will power on the second system in my TX10-D which for now is just doing general and school stuff for my little ones and the boss (aka the wife). if my little ones show more interes in pc gaming, I'll throw in a new gpu in there for them to start gaming on. My rig....is mine....mine! My precioussssssssssssssssssssss......biggrin.gif


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Originally Posted by Sgt Bilko View Post

My brain hurts now after all that doh.gif

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Edited by wermad - 2/6/16 at 10:32am
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