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Look, I ran mine with ONE NF-F12 and it never went over 69c in Summer (Australian summer mind you).

I have no A/C either.

It's an excellent cooling solution when used properly, AMD can't control how you use it

Proof?

I ran 4 395x2s in super quad crossfire once.

Isn't make believe fun?



My configuration is more than adequate. Huge case. Standard airflow arrangement. The case is not in any cubby. It is on top of my desk, with the rear exhaust fan less than a foot from my open window. Thus, AMD's cooling solution is sub par at dissipating the significant heat output of it's hardware. While I would usually try to avoid arguing semantics with intransigent AMD fans, multiple reputable sources agree with my fan setup.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/692-how-many-case-fans-should-you-have

https://blog.neweggbusiness.com/over-easy/pc-cooling-how-to-set-up-computer-case-fans/

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/128313-extremetechs-guide-to-air-cooling-your-pc

I find it strange I cannot hear any pump increase in speed as temperatures increase, it sounds the same as at idle, with my ear 5 inches from the card itself. Further I'm wondering if anyone has had any temperature drops with vbios updates/mods/etc, without me having to go through ~900 pages to find out.
Edited by Culbrelai - 7/20/16 at 8:58pm
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amd fans, right - no, i only have quadfire 295, a total of FIVE 290s, and several other builds, and i actually know amds system, o yea this entire thread , hmmm.... your right, we are wrong ...
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Originally Posted by Culbrelai View Post

Do you live in Antarctica? It's currently ~80F in my room atm. I guess AMD intends you to only use the card in winter, with the window open...
I live in South Africa.

It gets pretty hot here.
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The card is fighting for air so badly.... your issue is obvious. If you stopped being such a dick to people trying to help you here I'm sure you'd come out with a proper answer and some help much faster. But your loss, every single other person's R9 295X2 is working perfectly fine thumb.gif
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Look, I ran mine with ONE NF-F12 and it never went over 69c in Summer (Australian summer mind you).

I have no A/C either.

It's an excellent cooling solution when used properly, AMD can't control how you use it

Proof?

I ran 4 395x2s in super quad crossfire once.

Isn't make believe fun?



My configuration is more than adequate. Huge case. Standard airflow arrangement. The case is not in any cubby. It is on top of my desk, with the rear exhaust fan less than a foot from my open window. Thus, AMD's cooling solution is sub par at dissipating the significant heat output of it's hardware. While I would usually try to avoid arguing semantics with intransigent AMD fans, multiple reputable sources agree with my fan setup.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/692-how-many-case-fans-should-you-have

https://blog.neweggbusiness.com/over-easy/pc-cooling-how-to-set-up-computer-case-fans/

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/128313-extremetechs-guide-to-air-cooling-your-pc

I find it strange I cannot hear any pump increase in speed as temperatures increase, it sounds the same as at idle, with my ear 5 inches from the card itself. Further I'm wondering if anyone has had any temperature drops with vbios updates/mods/etc, without me having to go through ~900 pages to find out.

I'll see if I can dig up some temp readings when I'm in front of my keyboard and not on mobile.

Food for thought: If no one else is having issues yet you are then that should tell you something.
 
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Look, I ran mine with ONE NF-F12 and it never went over 69c in Summer (Australian summer mind you).

I have no A/C either.

It's an excellent cooling solution when used properly, AMD can't control how you use it

Proof?

I ran 4 395x2s in super quad crossfire once.

Isn't make believe fun?



^ That was after a 2 hour session of Tomb Raider with the 295x2 + R9 390x DD

GPU1: 46c (295x2)
GPU2: 49c (295x2)
GPU3: 54c (390x)

I also started to do some fan testing of my own but never completed it:
NF-F12 iPPC 295x2 Testing (Click to show)
Noctua NF-F12 Industrial PPC 2000rpm x 1 (Push)
Ambient 27c
10mins AIDA64 GPU Stability Stress Test
GPU1:69c
GPU2:74c (No throttle)

Noctua NF-F12 Industrial PPC 2500rpm x 1 (Push)
Ambient 27c
10mins AIDA64 GPU Stability Stress Test
GPU1:67c
GPU2:71c

Noctua NF-F12 Industrial PPC 3000rpm x 1 (Push)
Ambient 27c
10mins AIDA64 GPU Stability Stress Test
GPU1:64c
GPU2:68c

Noctua NF-F12 Industrial PPC 2000rpm x 2 (Push/Pull)
Ambient 27c
10mins AIDA64 GPU Stability Stress Test
GPU1:64c
GPU2:68c

Noctua NF-F12 Industrial PPC 2500rpm x 2 (Push/Pull)
Ambient 27c
10mins AIDA64 GPU Stability Stress Test
GPU1:62c
GPU2:66c

Noctua NF-F12 Industrial PPC 3000rpm x 2 (Push/Pull)
Ambient 27c
10mins AIDA64 GPU Stability Stress Test
GPU1:59c
GPU2:63c

Temps peaked and plateaued after 6-7mins so I let it run for 10 and called it.

Rad was setup as Rear Exhaust in my CM Storm Trooper, see the drop in temps?
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I find it strange I cannot hear any pump increase in speed as temperatures increase, it sounds the same as at idle, with my ear 5 inches from the card itself. Further I'm wondering if anyone has had any temperature drops with vbios updates/mods/etc, without me having to go through ~900 pages to find out.

As I explained before the pump always runs at 100% in Asetek coolers, instead of trying to flash a new BIOS (which won't help) why don't you at least try and sort out your airflow first?
 
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I posted above the temp limit is to prevent damage to the AIO unit, not the GPU itself.

If you are meaning target GPU temperature found in OverDrive page as "the temp limit" this is concerning the GPU not AIO:-

a) I know this as the PowerPlay for 295X2 is same as 290/X 390/X.
b) the Linux driver also has comments within it as to highlight what value is.
c) I have done a few custom ROMs for 295X2 for members and so have the results from modifying this value.
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instead of trying to flash a new BIOS (which won't help) why don't you at least try and sort out your airflow first?

I would concur that first member seeking help improve airflow, etc but do not concur a modified bios wouldn't help.
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I posted above the temp limit is to prevent damage to the AIO unit, not the GPU itself.

If you are meaning target GPU temperature found in OverDrive page as "the temp limit" this is concerning the GPU not AIO:-

a) I know this as the PowerPlay for 295X2 is same as 290/X 390/X.
b) the Linux driver also has comments within it as to highlight what value is.
c) I have done a few custom ROMs for 295X2 for members and so have the results from modifying this value.
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instead of trying to flash a new BIOS (which won't help) why don't you at least try and sort out your airflow first?

I would concur that first member seeking help improve airflow, etc but do not concur a modified bios wouldn't help.

I was actually meaning the 75c hard limit and I don't doubt you can modify it but the pump blocks would get awful toasty.

I should rephrase a little, a modified BIOS probably would help but without him changing anything at all and just that I can't see it improving his situation.
 
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Correct. Lack of heat rejection just means it will go to a higher temp. Then still throttle, just at a higher temp
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The card is fighting for air so badly.... your issue is obvious.

If it is so obvious then perhaps you'd be willing to share?

No, I am not moving it to rear exhaust (because it would suck in hot CPU air) and I am not changing the top to intake for reasons stated previously.
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Food for thought: If no one else is having issues yet you are then that should tell you something.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/r9-295x2-powerplay-core-clock-throttling.207863/
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2273742/unlock-max-temp-295x2.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2202794/295x2-throttling-low-frames.html
https://hashcat.net/forum/thread-4023.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/3crttz/r9_295x2_temperature_is_way_too_high/
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/601917-amd-r9-295x2-thermal-throttlinghow-can-i-change-the-max-temperature-limit/
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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

If you are meaning target GPU temperature found in OverDrive page as "the temp limit" this is concerning the GPU not AIO:-

a) I know this as the PowerPlay for 295X2 is same as 290/X 390/X.
b) the Linux driver also has comments within it as to highlight what value is.
c) I have done a few custom ROMs for 295X2 for members and so have the results from modifying this value.

See now this is helpful. What would you want to make one for me? I've got paypal =P
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I can find a bunch of random forum links where people are complaining about something, happens on an hourly basis tongue.gif

You don't need to be so hostile about this, we are trying to help you but you're making it hard by insulting us and not taking the advice that you're asking for......

You noticed that the temps went down when you added another (mismatched) fan to the rad right? doesn't that tell you that the cooling is adequate but it needs more airflow?

At the end of the day I honestly don't care what you do but I hope you realise that we are trying to help (even Mega in his own funny way) but if you already have a preconcived notion and were jst looking for people to agree with you then I'm sorry but this isn't the place for that.

EDIT:

You seem like a person that would benefit from a visual medium so here's something you'll like:


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