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it's not a choice I figured, it comes through windows updates not like when you can disable it through a registry entry like when we were on windows 8 to prevent it from nagging to update to windows 8.1

Of course it's a choice. Just tell MS update to never download and install updates. I always pick and choose the updates I want without any error or issue.
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Another strange thing I noticed which might help to find what's causing the issue:

I use a tool called "Dexpot" that can create virtual desktops. It has a plugin where it draws the tiny previews of the contents of those desktops inside the task-bar. What's interesting is that Dexpot starts up instantly if I use "netplwiz" to disable the password prompt at start-up to have auto-logon of my normal account. If the password prompt is there, Dexpot will start up very slow, take a minute before it shows up in the task-bar and stuff. The same can be seen if I log out and log back in without restart.

I think what might happen there is that some service is causing that minute delay. With auto-logon, the PC starts so fast that this service is not yet running when the desktop shows up and Dexpot starts. How do I diagnose which service might be at fault?

I already tried disabling all non-Microsoft services in msconfig as an experiment but not change, so I guess it must be something Microsoft.

EDIT:

I also tried disabling all third-party shell extensions loaded into explorer.exe (with ShellExView) to make sure it's not explorer.exe hanging because of one of those.
Edited by deepor - 4/17/14 at 9:01am
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Another strange thing I noticed which might help to find what's causing the issue:

I use a tool called "Dexpot" that can create virtual desktops. It has a plugin where it draws the tiny previews of the contents of those desktops inside the task-bar. What's interesting is that Dexpot starts up instantly if I use "netplwiz" to disable the password prompt at start-up to have auto-logon of my normal account. If the password prompt is there, Dexpot will start up very slow, take a minute before it shows up in the task-bar and stuff. The same can be seen if I log out and log back in without restart.

I think what might happen there is that some service is causing that minute delay. With auto-logon, the PC starts so fast that this service is not yet running when the desktop shows up and Dexpot starts. How do I diagnose which service might be at fault?

I already tried disabling all non-Microsoft services in msconfig as an experiment but not change, so I guess it must be something Microsoft.

EDIT:

I also tried disabling all third-party shell extensions loaded into explorer.exe (with ShellExView) to make sure it's not explorer.exe hanging because of one of those.


I don't even have a password on my account

 

Tried with both local and MS account login, same issue

 

offcourse when using the ms account I do disable the password prompt via netplwiz

post #14 of 42
I had many problems like this with regular windows 8.1, so I just re-installed 7 and got rid of that garbage.
post #15 of 42
One thing to be aware of is that in early May Microsoft is dropping update support for 8.1 if you dont have Update 1.

Dont ask me how that makes sense, but its whats happening
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One thing to be aware of is that in early May Microsoft is dropping update support for 8.1 if you dont have Update 1.

Dont ask me how that makes sense, but its whats happening

I wonder what is going on with them lately, I think they're crazy.
post #17 of 42
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I had many problems like this with regular windows 8.1, so I just re-installed 7 and got rid of that garbage.


LOL

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Originally Posted by PhilWrir View Post

One thing to be aware of is that in early May Microsoft is dropping update support for 8.1 if you dont have Update 1.

Dont ask me how that makes sense, but its whats happening

I wonder what is going on with them lately, I think they're crazy.


Windows 8 has failed so badly compared to 7 that they are going berserk and just don't know what to do anymore.... disable updatees.....integrate OneDrive heavily into the OS forcing people to use it... unresolved bugs such as the one I am experiencing with others above.....I wish I can just fast forward 2 years and install Windows 9
 and end this joke

post #18 of 42
I found out what my problem is but don't know how to fix it while staying with a local account and without OneDrive/SkyDrive.

So, my problem is the File Explorer not working quite right at first start and I'm not sure if it's the same problem that OP has. It locks up for a while, can't show contents of "This PC" for example.

While it was doing its thing (green progress bar at the top and stuff), I had Event Viewer open and found out that one error message related to OneDrive is showing up the moment the File Explorer window is starting to work again.

It was this event:

"The server {1B1F472E-3221-4826-97DB-2C2324D389AE} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout." -- (Event ID) 10010, (Source) Distributed COM

So I guess if I could fix those errors in the Event Viewer, the File Explorer behavior would be fixed.

Doing some research, that code is tied to a DCOM thingy named SyncEngineCOMServer and somewhere in the Registry skydrive.exe is being mentioned.

If I switch to a Microsoft Account and re-enable OneDrive in the group policies, there's no error in the Event Viewer and the File Explorer works right at the first start, so it's really that error and it's really OneDrive.
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I found out what my problem is but don't know how to fix it while staying with a local account and without OneDrive/SkyDrive.

So, my problem is the File Explorer not working quite right at first start and I'm not sure if it's the same problem that OP has. It locks up for a while, can't show contents of "This PC" for example.

While it was doing its thing (green progress bar at the top and stuff), I had Event Viewer open and found out that one error message related to OneDrive is showing up the moment the File Explorer window is starting to work again.

It was this event:

"The server {1B1F472E-3221-4826-97DB-2C2324D389AE} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout." -- (Event ID) 10010, (Source) Distributed COM

So I guess if I could fix those errors in the Event Viewer, the File Explorer behavior would be fixed.

Doing some research, that code is tied to a DCOM thingy named SyncEngineCOMServer and somewhere in the Registry skydrive.exe is being mentioned.

If I switch to a Microsoft Account and re-enable OneDrive in the group policies, there's no error in the Event Viewer and the File Explorer works right at the first start, so it's really that error and it's really OneDrive.


that is my issue exactly!!! seems like we are forced to keep one drive's ugly icon and have it running in the taskbar if we don't want this error!!

post #20 of 42
I don't want to. T_T

Google doesn't really help with that 10010 event in the Event Viewer. I can't find solutions.
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