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I don't think you guys needed to create a local account, or re-install windows tongue.gif. I stated that i had the issue, and disabling some startup programs solved it. I didn't try any other stuff you guys are doing here. Oh well...
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I don't think you guys needed to create a local account, or re-install windows tongue.gif. I stated that i had the issue, and disabling some startup programs solved it. I didn't try any other stuff you guys are doing here. Oh well...

I tried that with the start-up programs and more, also disabled all services that were not Microsoft for example, disabled shell extension loaded into Explorer. The thing here was really about a user account being a bit broken after you disconnect it from a Microsoft Account.
post #33 of 42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yungbenny911 View Post

I don't think you guys needed to create a local account, or re-install windows tongue.gif. I stated that i had the issue, and disabling some startup programs solved it. I didn't try any other stuff you guys are doing here. Oh well...

I tried that with the start-up programs and more, also disabled all services that were not Microsoft for example, disabled shell extension loaded into Explorer. The thing here was really about a user account being a bit broken after you disconnect it from a Microsoft Account.

Maybe it varies from user to user, but i'm glad some of you have been able to fix the problem thumb.gif. That thing was really, really annoying tongue.gif
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I haven't encountered any issues like this with the update.

I actually just rebooted to check and as soon as desktop pops up, I opened evga precision, chrome and control panels icons instantly.

I also have onedrive disabled and am using a local account.
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post #35 of 42
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I haven't encountered any issues like this with the update.

I actually just rebooted to check and as soon as desktop pops up, I opened evga precision, chrome and control panels icons instantly.

I also have onedrive disabled and am using a local account.

that's why

the issue lies in OneDrive
post #36 of 42
After all these long investigations, I have narrowed down the issue with OneDrive, it is one broken buggy piece of software. People who don't complain about this issue don't have OneDrive enabled, that's why some say that they don't experience this issue.

Here is the thing, after installing Windows 8.1 Update (clean install), logging using a local account, disablinc UAC to prevent OneDrive from even getting activated later on, all was well....

Now here comes the problem...

I have Microsoft Office 2013 Home & Business Edition and with that, it does not give you the option to choose to choose what components you want, it simply install everything (including One Note and OneDrive)...


After I installed it, I rebooted and THERE comes the problem again....

the moment I open ANY folder, for example, my software folder where I keep all the installation EXE setup files.... then I clicked on the desktop icons, nothing responds, and the icons in the Software folder are all white/blank...

restarted again just to verify....same issue

So I uninstalled OneDrive that Microsoft Office installed even though it's there in the OS, it installs its own version. Using Revo Uninstaller Pro, I also deleted all the files that were left over...but Revo Uninstaller did not clean the registry entries that OneDrive created, nor did it clean the 4 startup entries that One Drive created as well... This isn't Revo Uninstaller's fault since I didn't install Microsoft Office using One Drive because it's a messy setup that involves many installations in one package.

Next, I ran Autoruns.exe and deleted (not only disabled, but deleted) the 4 startup entries that OneDrive creates...rebooted....issue is still there....

Here is the fix, after uninstalling OneDrive and deleting its 4 startup entries, you need to run REGEDIT

Click on the Computer icon on the top to have the search look in all registry categories...

now, hit CTRL + F to bring up the search dialogue box then type: OneDrive

Start the search, when the first result appears, don't only delete its subkey from the right pane, but look in the left pane where the key is highlighted, and delete it entirely. Then press F3 to search for more....then delete them one by one...some of them will tell you permission denied, so you have to right click on the parent key from the left pane, select permissions, set the ownership to "Everyone" then check "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects" and also check "Replace all child object permission entries with inheritable permission entries from this object" then click Apply

Now when you are back to the main permissions Window, click Add, then type Everyone, and give them ALL permissions

After that try deleting the registry key again, it will work.

I found around 10 entries or so and it takes some time to delete them but after you delete them and reboot, the problem is solved!

Thank you Microsoft for this! Not only do they wanna force people to use their software by hook or crook, but they can't even get it to work properly.

To be fair, 2 weeks back, I thought, let me ditch Dropbox and switch to OneDrive since it is integrated into the OS. So I purchased 50 GB of space and spent 1 full day uploading all my data...

Suddenly, I start seeing Sync issues in the taskbar, oh well, I ignored it... when I try running any file from my OneDrive, it's like the file isn't on my SSD but is on the cloud and needs to be downloaded before I can open the file. No I did not choose to have the files available online only, I didn't touch that option. There is no option to even re-download all the contents, I lost all my Data!

Thank god Dropbox is there which also had my files so I redownloaded them and swore never to touch OneDrive again. I got a full refund from Microsoft for the extra space I bought.
post #37 of 42
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that's why

the issue lies in OneDrive

Check post #7 again, the OP states you won't have this problem if you don't disable Onedrive.

I have it disabled and I don't have the problem.
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I got myself a copy of win8.1 N update 1 ISO and reinstalled windows. Can report that the iso with update1 intergrated fixed my login issue.
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that's why

the issue lies in OneDrive

Check post #7 again, the OP states you won't have this problem if you don't disable Onedrive.

I have it disabled and I don't have the problem.

This issue here shows up if you had OneDrive enabled at some point, for example because you turned your account into a Microsoft Account. If you then later disable OneDrive, it will appear. You can see if you have the same issue as OP or me by looking through the Event Viewer.

The error in the Event Viewer is this one:

Source: DistributedCOM
Event ID: 10010
"The server {1B1F472E-3221-4826-97DB-2C2324D389AE} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout."

That's some OneDrive/SkyDrive integration thingy into Explorer or something. Some part of the OneDrive integration does not get removed after disabling OneDrive.

I fixed my problems by deleting pretty much anything mentioning "SkyDrive" inside the HKEY_CURRENT_USER tree in the Registry. I did not go as far as Maximus666 described in his last post where he seems to have deleted any and all traces out of the whole Registry.
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This issue here shows up if you had OneDrive enabled at some point, for example because you turned your account into a Microsoft Account. If you then later disable OneDrive, it will appear. You can see if you have the same issue as OP or me by looking through the Event Viewer.

The error in the Event Viewer is this one:

Source: DistributedCOM
Event ID: 10010
"The server {1B1F472E-3221-4826-97DB-2C2324D389AE} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout."

That's some OneDrive/SkyDrive integration thingy into Explorer or something. Some part of the OneDrive integration does not get removed after disabling OneDrive.

I fixed my problems by deleting pretty much anything mentioning "SkyDrive" inside the HKEY_CURRENT_USER tree in the Registry. I did not go as far as Maximus666 described in his last post where he seems to have deleted any and all traces out of the whole Registry.

Makes sense. I had Onedrive disabled right from installation.
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