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why do these discussions have to come up time and time again??? silly question... this is the internet biggrin.gif

all the benchmarks are out there, performed time and time again

AMD performs well, delivers good performance

Intel, in most areas, performs better

BUUUUUUUT... just because Intel chips deliver overall better performance, that does not immediately equate to AMD being a poor choice

I've had both Intel and AMD rigs over time, both have had pros and cons, but both performed well
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_2I_VujSH0

Thats me getting a score of 4707 on firestrike extreme, while buffering 3 youtube videos and running an antivirus scan simultaneously. It gets above 6000 under better conditions http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2054345

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7v2FKquVlo

Mechwarrior online, 1 7950 at stock clocks (925/1250), normal quality, 70-100 frames a second, no lag,



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfdACJYl9Ko

Star Craft 2, 1 7950 at stock clocks, high quality, 100-120 frames a second, no lag



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPq706IU8hk

Tomb Raider, 1 7950 at stock clocks, normal quality, 100-130 frames a second, no lag.


You can not POSSIBLY refute all this evidence and still insist that this processor is completely worthless for gaming or general use. Well I mean you -can-, but you'd look like a troll. granted, this is a 9370 not an 8350, its also got an h80i on it and it's at 5.0Ghz, however an 8350 is perfectly capable of the same performance.

For the record, Battlefield 4, Crysis 1,2 and 3, Far Cry 3, Civilization 5, Cities XL, Borderlands 2, Path of Exile, Sleeping Dogs, -ALL- run well above 60 frames a second with 1 gpu at stock clocks or 2 gpu's overclocked. No lag, no stuttering. Nothing. an intel chip is probably capable of the same performance, with less cost, or less time invested. Thats fine. People need to stop acting like amd chips are utter trash, they simply aren't. They're not as good as intel's at most things, but thats fine. They don't have to be. A gas guzzling classic mustang will get you anywhere a flex fuel porsche will. PERIOD.

Xeon E3-1230 V2 & V3 can do all of that with.much much lower power consumption, and they're priced close to the FX-8350 wink.gif
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I will admit my fps does drop into the 20's-30's with 8 zerg teams late game but I'm hardly going to fault my cpu for that. I doubt any i5 could do much better and I'm sure most reasonably priced i7's would drop noticeably as well. Don't bother saying otherwise without proof btw and I don't mean benchmarks

I don't know what you consider "much better". An 3570k is about 35% faster then an FX-8350 in SCII (depending on their overclocks). What that means is that where you get 25FPS the i5 would manage 33FPS. When you get 40FPS the i5 does 54FPS. I call that a significant difference.

Yes the FPS does drop on an i5 as well but I take +30 over 25 any day of the week.




1024X768? 2006 wants their resolution back, pretty much irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. What is the difference at resolutions that people actually play the game at?
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1024X768? 2006 wants their resolution back, pretty much irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. What is the difference at resolutions that people actually play the game at?

Are you saying that if we increase the resolution, the FPS will magically rise with it? The purpose of using the low resolution for the test, is to ensure that the GPU has been effectively removed from the test. If the test shows ~40FPS minimums at 1024x768, do you think that will be better at 1080P or worse? Attempting to dismantle the validity of SC2 benchmarks by pointing out that they were performed at a low resolution is counter-productive. If the FPS is bad at a low resolution on a PD chip, it's certainly not going to improve with more resolution. There are plenty of SC2 benches out there showing that PD dips into the TEENS (slideshow) FPS at stock clocks with low resolution settings.
     
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1024X768? 2006 wants their resolution back, pretty much irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. What is the difference at resolutions that people actually play the game at?

Are you saying that if we increase the resolution, the FPS will magically rise with it? The purpose of using the low resolution for the test, is to ensure that the GPU has been effectively removed from the test. If the test shows ~40FPS minimums at 1024x768, do you think that will be better at 1080P or worse? Attempting to dismantle the validity of SC2 benchmarks by pointing out that they were performed at a low resolution is counter-productive. If the FPS is bad at a low resolution on a PD chip, it's certainly not going to improve with more resolution. There are plenty of SC2 benches out there showing that PD dips into the TEENS (slideshow) FPS at stock clocks with low resolution settings.

I'm saying any benchmark measures something that no one actually does is pretty much pointless. Like owning the best mountain climbing gear ever made and never leaving Nebraska.
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I'm saying any benchmark measures something that no one actually does is pretty much pointless. Like owning the best mountain climbing gear ever made and never leaving Nebraska.

He just explained why its not pointless. There I no way raising the resolution would improve the FPS at best if would compress the average FPS. In the top bench they where running a GTX 680. Would you be happy if they re did the same test using an GTX 780 Ti at 1080p?

It would not really change anything as crappy low FPS is due to an CPU bottleneck.

You want 1080p? Here




Happy now?
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I'm saying any benchmark measures something that no one actually does is pretty much pointless. Like owning the best mountain climbing gear ever made and never leaving Nebraska.

He just explained why its not pointless. There I no way raising the resolution would improve the FPS at best if would compress the average FPS. In the top bench they where running a GTX 680. Would you be happy if they re did the same test using an GTX 780 Ti at 1080p?

It would not really change anything as crappy low FPS is due to an CPU bottleneck.

Do you play any game at 1024 X 768?
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I'm saying any benchmark measures something that no one actually does is pretty much pointless. Like owning the best mountain climbing gear ever made and never leaving Nebraska.

It's a good analogy, except it's missing the most important part, the great climbing gear is the GPU, the climber is the CPU. It doesn't matter where the climber uses that expensive gear, if the climbing talent and strength is poor, then the results will still be poor. The gear can't fix the climber. Raising the resolution (going to the Himalayas) won't fix the climber either.

How does climbing badly in Nebraska translate to climbing well on Kilimanjaro?
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FX CPUs arent good for gaming. In most games you WILL get lower fps than an i5/i7.

I had a FX8150 @ 5 before i changed back to Intel (i7-3770K @ 4.8). I remember my Skyrim and WOW FPS went up like 100%... It was very very noticeable.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6

In some games CPU aint that important tho. But why take the chance? I would never buy an AMD CPU for a gaming machine. Intel CPU delivers good performance in all games. AMD dosnt.
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Do you play any game at 1024 X 768?

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