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We need those mass relays from Mass Effect

Can't use them, in my ending they blew up.
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Is is amazing to think about these things. I thought this thread would keep going and get alot of people thinking. Our planet is pretty unique for life as we know it even thought insects are pretty wierd. We are in the right spot, have one moon for tides and an atmosphere that supports carbon based forms and a magnetic core that shields us from radiation. Thats a lot of things that are just right. Makes me wonder hummmm. And the universe is so absolutly freaking big. We are just a spot of dust. In a little solar system at the edge of a fair sized galaxy with billions of stars in it. And to think there are billions of galaxys kind of blows my mind.
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Extraterrestrial life. Habitable Planets. Strange Phenomena that helps to explain the universe. When was the last time you looked out of a window and wondered what was past the horizon?

I never stop doing that.
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What i think people are forgetting is that some carbon life forms like cockroaches are more resilient against radiation so it could still be possible, but they might in fact be insects lol.
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can there be anything more alien looking than insects.. what exactly are we searching for

You never know if we could find non-carbon based lifeforms. Imagine the array of life's shapes and forms a fundamental change like that could allow. There is still tons and tons and tons of stuff unknown to us in the Cosmos.
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magnetic forces can and do

Hmm - so how do you create a field large enough to or strong enough to shield an object, human or ship? thinking.gif
    
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What i think people are forgetting is that some carbon life forms like cockroaches are more resilient against radiation so it could still be possible, but they might in fact be insects lol.

Yeap...tho I don't really know what would be worse: infest Kepler 186f with ourselves or modified cockroaches?
And what if it already has some? (starship-cough-troopers).
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Hmm - so how do you create a field large enough to or strong enough to shield an object, human or ship? thinking.gif

You drag along that magnet with roughly the mass of the Earth's core?
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magnetic forces can and do

Hmm - so how do you create a field large enough to or strong enough to shield an object, human or ship? thinking.gif

I assume it depends on how much radiation (and what kind) you're trying to repel and the size of the 'thing' being shielded. Things like these should be calculated.
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Elvis

Namekians and the 7 Dragon Balls

The artist's impression does kind of look like Namek...
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They said the sun is far more active than our sun, which means the surface of the planet would be bombarded with radiation quite a bit more than ours. They said it's Earth-like, but with that sort of radiation, it may be difficult for that planet to support carbon-based lifeforms.

Plenty of life forms on Earth that can tolerate extreme levels of radiation. There are also going to be plenty of areas that would be well shielded. The planet also has a significant chance of being tidally locked, which would keep half of it from exposure to any UV (or most any radiation really) from Kepler 186 at all.

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On the topic of radiation shielding, besides heavy metal shielding and plasma - is there any substance or material, organic or inorganic, that counter effects radiation or 'zeroes out' its effects?

Like a mirror window shield in a car to repel heat - is there something that can deflect, cancel out, or otherwise immobilize radiation (I realize there are different types)?

thinking.gif

Depends on the kind of radiation you are talking about. A sheet of thick paper will block all UV, all visible light, most IR, and low energy alpha and beta particles. You need significant mass to stop higher energy particles or things like gamma rays.

Best way to protect a crew from radiation is to make the trip as short as possible. After that consideration, you want them in the center of your craft so the ship, it's fuel, and it's stores can function as shielding. You'd also want a small (to keep mass down), more significantly shielded, room for the crew to retreat to weather higher energy events.

More exotic ideas like artifical magnetic fields could be helpful in deflecting some particles, but could not be all-round protection. A magnetic field can only deflect charged particles. On earth we also have a significant atmosphere protecting us. Material shielding would be needed no matter how powerful your magnetic field.
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Hmm - so how do you create a field large enough to or strong enough to shield an object, human or ship? thinking.gif

You just need a source of power and any long distance manned flight would need a small nuclear power plant anyway.
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The artist's impression does kind of look like Namek...

It should be reiterated that we cannot see the planet at all, and that all we truly know is it's mass, it's diameter, it's distance from it's star, the kind of star it orbits, and what can be directly inferred from these things.
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