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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

Yeah, tick-tock had to slow down as it is not sustainable. As you get into smaller and smaller lithographies and pluck the lower hanging fruit for performance, the difficulty starts to scale exponentially.

Of course, AMD not pushing Intel is not helping on the high-end performance.

On the flipside, ARM pushing Intel has shifted their focus to performance/watt rather than performance regardless of watt.
I just feel cheated having a new chipset with no tick or tock! Seems like Intel just wants people to buy new boards for no reason.
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Originally Posted by Dyson Poindexter View Post

Anyone else think Intel is slipping on their tick-tock cycle? I was expecting Broadwell right about now.

Each step (tick or tock) has taken a year or bit more than that.

Nehalem -> Westmere = 1 year 3 months
Westmere -> SB = 1 year
SB -> IB = 1 year 3 months
IB -> Haswell = 1 year 2 months

With broadwell intel had some bug or issue (can't remember what it was exactly) with the 14nm process so they had to delay for about one quarter. If the news about skylake in this thread are true then they should still be following their schedule relatively well.

Maybe not quite in line with the original tick-tock strategy but still pretty much the same as recent years.
 
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I just feel cheated having a new chipset with no tick or tock! Seems like Intel just wants people to buy new boards for no reason.

I think Intel hit it's theoretical limitation wall of it's x86 design, that's why they ventured into ARM territory. The best solution isn't pursuing pure x86 design but a hybridized territory like AMD. If anything I think Intel should try to support their development and research so that they can finally produce something unique themselves to compare to. Almost literally a 10-20x performance boost in x86 threads using HSA.
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post #34 of 60
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Anyone else think Intel is slipping on their tick-tock cycle? I was expecting Broadwell right about now.

Yeah, look at that roadmap study for the industry



The numbers are in whole weeks!

Gets harder and harder sadsmiley.gif
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post #35 of 60
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I've a cousin who works for Nikon in an Intel Fab and he told me end of last Summer that Broadwell was going to be very short lived

Maybe, but from a business stand point releasing them in the same year is just stupid and not very "intel".
post #36 of 60
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Maybe, but from a business stand point releasing them in the same year is just stupid and not very "intel".

They're made on the same 14nm process so it shouldn't matter that much. Dropping production of one chip series doesn't suddenly make the previous fabs underutilized like it would with a transition from 22nm to 14nm. or 14nm to 10nm.
 
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post #37 of 60
Is the reason Intel is so slow on upgrading processors is because there really isn't much of a market? Most CPUS are fast enough to play games at high res-a lot of games are GPU limited.
People that need to have heavy duty processing in terms of video/media already have discrete graphics options which will continue to be many times faster than CPU rendering. People that really need it have Xeons/Mac ProsI am all for more power, but I haven't run into a situation where my 3770k hasn't been enough.
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Is the reason Intel is so slow on upgrading processors is because there really isn't much of a market? Most CPUS are fast enough to play games at high res-a lot of games are GPU limited.
People that need to have heavy duty processing in terms of video/media already have discrete graphics options which will continue to be many times faster than CPU rendering. People that really need it have Xeons/Mac ProsI am all for more power, but I haven't run into a situation where my 3770k hasn't been enough.
Performance per watt is of priority right now instead of raw performance.
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If it releases and along that same time DDR4 has a reasonable price, I might upgrade. If not Its a pass.
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Performance per watt is of priority right now instead of raw performance.

Exactly. I remeber back in the day when I went from an Athlon II 700 to an 1400 version things I normally did...playing games..even web surfing and Office work was notably faster.
Majority of people currently use a computer for simply those tasks and any processor can handle it. It is really a small segment of the overall base that are actually power users/modders that need that extra speed.
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