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Motherboard is doa ... emailed the guy on eBay -_-

Edit: unless you guys think it's something else I tested it with two different power supplies outside of the case on a test bench lol
would't be surprised for what you paid for it. but I have had wretched luck with haswell chips too I had to take back 2 because my mobo stopped going into bios with them

if you can try to reset or upgrade bios.




I HIGHLY doubt they are the same chips.. I am almost sure that's impossible. They could be samsung but the likelyhood of them being greens is almost 0%


I have samsung based tridents without a doubt.

some cas 10 are hynix I think
Edited by tatmMRKIV - 4/19/14 at 10:21pm
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Nah turns out the pins were bent the seller admitted they may have pushed the cover on it with some excess force. I tried bending them back with a razor and even though they look great it didn't work
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Nah turns out the pins were bent the seller admitted they may have pushed the cover on it with some excess force. I tried bending them back with a razor and even though they look great it didn't work

Well that sucks bro.
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Don't get your hopes up n get disappointed.. 4.5 is a great clock to get with these

most averaging in the 4.2-4.4 range

It's not that bad, haswell overclocking guide (with statistics) has 160-odd charted and median OC is about 45@1.3, which isn't the highest voltage that you can use. There are some bad apples, but there are also some laughing away @4.8 using 1.25vcore, who can do 5ghz on air. Most likely, with quite a high degree of certainty, your chip will do 44-46 @1.3vcore - if you want to delid or take higher temperatures, on air or 240/280mm clc/equivalent, you can push it 100-200mhz beyond that.

It does require some degree of competence though, at launch and still even now there are a lot of people with terrible overclocking habits doing crazy things - if you can sit back, read a guide (the one mentioned is the best i know of) and discuss + approach things logically, you'll probably do fine. There's not much more to it - but a lot of people fail at basic skills, or get mad at not immediately being able to fix an OC by throwing Vcore like you could on Sandy bridge, so a little patience is good thumb.gif
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Oh and yea the 780ti is really impressive you're right. It sits at 80 percent gpu usage at the heaviest of times while gaming in 3d in world of warcraft. Bf4 is the only game I play that maxes it out (obviously it becomes the bottleneck) but the game doesn't have any dips in fps below like 60 even on multiplayer ultra settings

I honestly think blizzard just needs to implement more efficient programming

Indeed WoW and sc2 are heavily CPU limited at times. Sc2 more-so - quite a few RTS and MMO games are. GPU power has very little to do with that. For sc2, if you want the best performance in a large fight and you can either take a 4670k@4.7ghz + a 750ti, or a 4670k@4.5ghz + sli780ti.. you'd take the 750ti. I'm not sure what WoW's utilization looks like in Alterac valley, outdoor bosses and other situations, but i've heard it to be quite demanding on a small number of threads
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Nah turns out the pins were bent the seller admitted they may have pushed the cover on it with some excess force. I tried bending them back with a razor and even though they look great it didn't work
Yeah bent pins blow... I think you may be able to get it replaced by asus for 50$... not 100% sure though


I know its not unlikely for him to get 4.5 but its not especially likely either




I gues its my skill but I couldn't get it to budge off 4.5 lower or greater without catastrophic failure so I don't know about this gainin some MHZ here n there
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Just wanted to note with regards to that topic about RAM being a waste or not, it might actually do something. I say that because I once stumbled upon some SC2 benchmarks where the RAM did actually make an appreciable difference with regards to the FPS. It was still only a handful extra FPS or so the way I remember, but that's actually a massive increase in this case as it was about the parts of the game where it runs very bad, drops to 30 FPS and things like that. In those situations, a bunch of extra FPS might help in making the game a bit more fun to play.

As WoW is also by Blizzard and the same programmers that did things on SC2 might have had their hand in building the game's engine, it might very well be a similar situation in WoW in those select situations where WoW runs bad and annoys you if your goal is to build a machine that will always do 60 FPS.
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I say that because I once stumbled upon some SC2 benchmarks where the RAM did actually make an appreciable difference with regards to the FPS.

those may have been mine

i showed >10% on mins and averages going from 1600 to 2200 same primary timings (c9) several times i think. At first kinda messy because i didn't know anything about RAM. In the end i think i got nearly a 1.2x gap between 1600 9-10-12-20 and 2200 9-10-12-20 on min FPS w/ sammy RAM, Haswell with fast RAM (sammies etc, or friend has some dual sided hynix sticks @2800c12 iirc) definitely leading the pack there

sc2 gets pretty low fps with lots of units, especially with physics on.. And the game microstutters like crazy, the FPS displayed is actually extremely inflated compared to the actual smoothness you get (so 60fps on a 120hz screen feels like 30-40)
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lol that's sammy green sticks?


Those results are invalid.. those sticks... something is special about them
they outperform everything....

except my c10 2666 dom plats... those were scary good. didn't get to have as much fun as I could of as they were mainly for subzero benchmarking CPUs

still got em to c9 2800 on air and 32M pi stable....
i got excited on the 32m test and hit OK so I had to run a 16M after it.. I ended upp running another 32M on the same power on but I took a camera picture and other 2 sticks in front of screen because I sold them for big$



even in things designed to show differences in ram.. there aren't many differences in ram...
atleast that you can tell with cas x MHZ i find its more stick to stick architecture than rated speeds

I have beaten those timings on way lower MHZ sticks n such





anyways... http://wccftech.com/asus-z97-motherboard-unveiled-rog-maximus-vii-hero-rog-maximus-vii-gene-rog-maximus-vii-ranger-z97-sabertooth-mark-z97-deluxe-pictured/
Edited by tatmMRKIV - 4/20/14 at 12:21pm
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lol that's sammy green sticks?

Yea

prime stable 24/7, most people sigh when you say 2200mhz but that's hardly the whole picture
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not at all... I have had great scores with cas 7 2133
and I had green sticks that ran faster than anything else i have used (other than thegolden dom plats) at cas 10 2475 1.55v

people get carried away with the mhz levels for ram(as the companies intended)
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