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I play a lot of WoW (too much) and sadly it's a old and terribly optimized game. The game just chokes when there are a large number of units around like in a 25 man raids or doing Celestial world bosses. I hope you see the improvements you're looking for but from my experience WoW just doesn't scale with current hardware very well.
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yea it really does choke badly. i mean realistically 45+ is all i can expect but raising that minimum would be great. especially for 3d gaming which is definitely playable with my i5 but i just want to make it more playable.

plus im enthusiast level at this point i really just enjoy building and overclocking computers.
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I play a lot of WoW (too much) and sadly it's a old and terribly optimized game. The game just chokes when there are a large number of units around like in a 25 man raids or doing Celestial world bosses. I hope you see the improvements you're looking for but from my experience WoW just doesn't scale with current hardware very well.

I play WoW too. I raid in WoW as well.

However, my experience is radically different. In fact, I found that my 4770k at stock was overkill for WoW, so I underclocked my 4770k down to 3.0 GHz, and I am presently playing WoW with my 4770k underclocked.

WoW has never choked on me so far with my 4770k.

In fact, the last time I had WoW choke on me was when I used my Pentium 4 Northwood Single Core PC from 2003 to run WoW.

WoW is an ancient game based on an ancient 2002 Warcraft III graphics engine. There is no way it can choke a modern CPU. Claims to the contrary are just gross exaggerations made by "120 FPS or I am lagging" type posters.

I play WoW at 1920X1080 Ultra.
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I play WoW too. I raid in WoW as well.

However, my experience is radically different. In fact, I found that my 4770k at stock was overkill for WoW, so I underclocked my 4770k down to 3.0 GHz, and I am presently playing WoW with my 4770k underclocked.

WoW has never choked on me so far with my 4770k.

In fact, the last time I had WoW choke on me was when I used my Pentium 4 Northwood Single Core PC from 2003 to run WoW.

WoW is an ancient game based on an ancient 2002 Warcraft III graphics engine. There is no way it can choke a modern CPU. Claims to the contrary are just gross exaggerations made by "120 FPS or I am lagging" type posters.

I play WoW at 1920X1080 Ultra.

I don't think anyone is trying to say WoW "chokes" a modern CPU in the sense of maxing it out. However it's no secret that WoW does indeed take a huge performance hit the more units you add to a scenario despite having plenty of horsepower to spare in today's modern machines. I never see my CPU/GPU anywhere close to being maxed which is exactly the point and problem I'm trying to illustrate. Throwing more powerful hardware at WoW can be a very fruitless endeavor due to the engine not being able to take advantage or utilize today's hardware.

Luckly I enjoy getting owned in BF4 when I'm not playing WoW so my 4770k and 290 are definitely put to good use. smile.gif
Edited by Tmfs - 4/21/14 at 3:27am
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WoW has never choked on me so far with my 4770k.

I've heard a lot of people say similar for sc2 - truth is, you have significantly lower standards than many
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I play WoW too. I raid in WoW as well.

However, my experience is radically different. In fact, I found that my 4770k at stock was overkill for WoW, so I underclocked my 4770k down to 3.0 GHz, and I am presently playing WoW with my 4770k underclocked.

WoW has never choked on me so far with my 4770k.

In fact, the last time I had WoW choke on me was when I used my Pentium 4 Northwood Single Core PC from 2003 to run WoW.

WoW is an ancient game based on an ancient 2002 Warcraft III graphics engine. There is no way it can choke a modern CPU. Claims to the contrary are just gross exaggerations made by "120 FPS or I am lagging" type posters.

I play WoW at 1920X1080 Ultra.

WOw chokes on 4930ks, because the more people you are around the LOWER cpu % and lower GPU % the game uses. It will max out 1 core, then bleed on to the rest.
IT should be the oposite but the game is coded badly.
Everyone in this thread confirms the game is badly coded, Saying other wise is futile.
Try playing on TICH server with 210,000 people.
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Yeah, whatever part of the engine is running on that one core, that will drag everything down. The tasks that the WoW engine manages to distribute on some extra cores, those are all waiting on that 100% usage core to finish whatever it's doing. When that one task has to do a lot in a raid, the usage on the other cores goes down because of that waiting going on. That's the explanation for why a Haswell i3 with high MHz isn't worse than an i7, or why Haswell i5 overclocked a lot gets to run less choppy than a six-core 3930k beast.
Edited by deepor - 4/21/14 at 5:31am
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Yeah, whatever part of the engine is running on that one core, that will drag everything down. The tasks that the WoW engine manages to distribute on some extra cores, those are all waiting on that 100% usage core to finish whatever it's doing. When that one task has to do a lot in a raid, the usage on the other cores goes down because of that waiting going on. That's the explanation for why a Haswell i3 with high MHz isn't worse than an i7, or why Haswell i5 overclocked a lot gets to run less choppy than a six-core 3930k beast.

Tell me about it lol. Drives me crazy being on Tich server.
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Originally Posted by Arxontas View Post

I play WoW too. I raid in WoW as well.

However, my experience is radically different. In fact, I found that my 4770k at stock was overkill for WoW, so I underclocked my 4770k down to 3.0 GHz, and I am presently playing WoW with my 4770k underclocked.

WoW has never choked on me so far with my 4770k.

In fact, the last time I had WoW choke on me was when I used my Pentium 4 Northwood Single Core PC from 2003 to run WoW.

WoW is an ancient game based on an ancient 2002 Warcraft III graphics engine. There is no way it can choke a modern CPU. Claims to the contrary are just gross exaggerations made by "120 FPS or I am lagging" type posters.

I play WoW at 1920X1080 Ultra.
im not saying it is unplayable. im saying that i have resources leftover for it, and it doesnt utilize them lol. my cpu total is at like 35% usage and my gpu is at like 60% in raids, and its still only pumping out like 45 fps. and its maddening, blizz really needs to optimize the game for 4-8 threads rather than the 2 or so it is optimized for lol

edit; oh and if you read what i said earlier i do like to play in 3d which drops to 23fps in certain situations and is totally unplayable even though the gpu was still at like 75% only, it doesnt make sense
Edited by fade2green514 - 4/21/14 at 6:39am
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I've heard a lot of people say similar for sc2 - truth is, you have significantly lower standards than many

On the contrary, you have got significantly higher expectations than is reasonable, aka "120 FPS or I am lagging".
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