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Build link: http://pcpartpicker.com/b/P3v.

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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $110.98)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $29.98)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (Purchased For $64.99)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $60.00)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (Purchased For $80.05)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $59.98)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card (Purchased For $165.00)
Case: NZXT H440 (Red/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $119.99)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $60.00)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $6.50)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $6.50)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $9.33)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $9.33)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $9.34)
Total: $791.97

I'm looking for upgrades that I can do to get a little extra out of my build, not because it lacks in performance, but because I'm addicted to maximizing my performance. So far, I'd like to get a better motherboard, CPU cooler, LED lights, and someday either run two 660Ti's in SLI or upgrade to an 800 series GPU.

Proposed build link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3tTwP.

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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (Purchased For $110.98)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $29.98)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_RD 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($42.83 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Killer ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $60.00)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (Purchased For $80.05)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $59.98)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For $165.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)
Case: NZXT H440 (Red/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $119.99)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $60.00)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $6.50)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $6.50)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $9.33)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $9.33)
Case Fan: Enermax UC-MA12 69.2 CFM 120mm Fan (Purchased For $9.34)
Total: $904.80

Mount the Phanteks cooler on the CPU, and the Hyper 212 EVO on the GPU with a support underneath to hold up the weight.

Hyper 212 EVO on a GPU experiment can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iegpwo9SqSg.
post #2 of 19
Sound interesting, I have no idea but I have a couple questions. Will the 212+ cover all the vrams and stuff that needs to be cooled, and is it better than the stock cooler itself?
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Sound interesting, I have no idea but I have a couple questions. Will the 212+ cover all the vrams and stuff that needs to be cooled, and is it better than the stock cooler itself?

the 212 is way better then the stock coolers but i don't think mounting a hyper 212 on a gpu would be a good idea smile.gif
Edited by ozlay - 4/19/14 at 10:59am
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I don't think that the 212+ on a GPU is such a great idea. It MAY be able to keep the core cool, but... The VRAM and especially the VRM will be insufficiently cooled, the same as what happened when CPU cooler design went from downward blowing fans to tower heatpipe sinks with fans blowing over/atop the motherboard, resulting in a significant increase in heat from the power components.
GPU's require a lot more power than (most all) CPU's, and while motherboard design has evolved such that every quality board has a heatsink effectively cooling the power phases even when airflow is negligible, tower style HSF's have never been beneficial for and consequently never influenced the design of the GPU. The increase in computing power, and consequently actual power (and resultant heat), has demanded ever more efficient heatsink design. As efficiency only goes so far, increasing the capacity became a necessity, and thus the double slot GPU cooler came into play. It provided a brief reprieve, but the quest for more soon again began in earnest. This has led to "third party" designs which feature multiple fans, increased number/size of heatpipes, and so forth. Water cooling, specifically full coverage blocks, are the current state of the art (24/7) cooling system, but along with the 30-50C drop comes a significant price tag.

To throw away all of this experience and knowledge, and focusing on cooling just the core CAN work.... The issue is that the airflow flowing parallel to but above thesurf ace of the card. Well, that and it's clearly not what anyone would call space efficient, creating a large footprint that almost eliminates the ability touutilize the majority of the PCIe slots offered; no SLI/CFX is fine with many, but it also means no sound card, RAID controller, expansion cards (USB/SATA/ESATA/etc), andsuch.

If yyou can get air blowingonto tthe face of the card, and mount heatsinks on the power phases and VRAM, you may be okay.
   
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I thought about that. Wouldn't conductive material and adhesive applied to the VRM be sufficient?
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I thought about that. Wouldn't conductive material and adhesive applied to the VRM be sufficient?

.. no.

you could possibly get a full coverage heatsink thats used for universal waterblocks and then mount cpu sink ontop of that.

why do you want to use a cpu heatsink on a gpu anyways its just a silly play toy not a think you would want in your 24/7rig? buy an nzxt clc and the bracket to mount to gpu.

and i would buy a new gpu before buying a second 660ti.
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clc on the gpu with vrm heatsinks and a small fan to cool them, the 212 is pretty big and will take up so much of your case and look horrible.

plus 660 tis dont really get hot enough to really need an aftermarket cooler, reference blowers are always bad performers though.

a fan curve adjustment will keep it plenty cool
 
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.. no.

you could possibly get a full coverage heatsink thats used for universal waterblocks and then mount cpu sink ontop of that.

why do you want to use a cpu heatsink on a gpu anyways its just a silly play toy not a think you would want in your 24/7rig? buy an nzxt clc and the bracket to mount to gpu.

and i would buy a new gpu before buying a second 660ti.

Because I'm not going to buy a closed loop cooler and risk it leaking. Besides, I've heard about VRM cooling issues with the G10...so I'd be in the same boat for even more $. The full coverage heatsink is a good suggestion, though.

I'm considering the 800 series when it comes out, and again, I'd like to attempt this to see the performance results.
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clc on the gpu with vrm heatsinks and a small fan to cool them, the 212 is pretty big and will take up so much of your case and look horrible.

plus 660 tis dont really get hot enough to really need an aftermarket cooler, reference blowers are always bad performers though.

a fan curve adjustment will keep it plenty cool

I'm not buying a closed loop cooler. And there is no room for extra fans. As for looks, that's subjective, and I think it'd look pretty cool. Plus, I have the need to experiment and mod to make my computer unique.

This is just a proposed experiment. If it works, I'll transition it over to the 800 series and test it again.
Edited by Naga Sadow - 4/22/14 at 12:44pm
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good,you could possibly get a full coverage heatsink thats used for universal waterblocks and then mount cpu sink ontop of that.tc1yGG
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Because I'm not going to buy a closed loop cooler and risk it leaking. Besides, I've heard about VRM cooling issues with the G10...so I'd be in the same boat for even more $. The full coverage heatsink is a good suggestion, though.

I'm considering the 800 series when it comes out, and again, I'd like to attempt this to see the performance results.
I'm not buying a closed loop cooler. And there is no room for extra fans. As for looks, that's subjective, and I think it'd look pretty cool. Plus, I have the need to experiment and mod to make my computer unique.

This is just a proposed experiment. If it works, I'll transition it over to the 800 series and test it again.

I would give it a go then if a clc isnt an option, 212s can be picked up cheap and should cool them very well.
 
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