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cpmee,

I don't generally even bring up the EVO version of the M5A97 R2.0, as it is only available in limited markets, and in the few places it is available in the US is way overpriced (~$150-200). You won't find a new one in the US that is priced competitively with the UD3P and non-EVO M5A97 R2.0 from a regular vendor. (maybe ebay or some bs like that). At least, I have never seen it at a "common" vendor.

The non-EVO version still has a great high efficiency 6+2phase that is adequate for overclocking an FX-6 series.
     
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The non-EVO version still has a great high efficiency 6+2phase that is adequate for overclocking an FX-6 series.
The non EVO versions dont have those digi+ power chips in the back (you can verify), so they are of lesser benefit. Not to say the plain M5A97 R2.0 is a dog, but just not as good as the M5A97 EVO R2.0 IMO. What to avoid is the M5A97 LE R2.0 with no vrm heatsink and no other nothing, heh. Its bad when they make boards with 3 different similar numbers.
    
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Right, the EVO version shares VRMs with the EVO 990FX. The problem is that, it costs as much as a saberkitty here, so what's the point?
     
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I am in the same boat regarding overclocking the 6100 so I hope it is okey if I post this here instead of making yet another thread, I cannot get it "stable" beyond 4,78ghz, anything over that and it just crashes under heavy load with a blue screen error 0x000101 (dont know how many zeros). I am currently at 1,5v, any lower than that and it crashes. I tried upping the voltage but with no luck still crashes at 4,8-4,9ghz. I have tried different FSB and multipliers but still no luck.

anyone got any advice ?
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I used to run an FX-6100 and Asus M5A97 r1.0. Cooling was handled by an Arctic Cooling Freezer 13, with MX-4 thermal compound. Carbide 200R case, plenty of correct airflow. Powered by a CX600M. 8Gb Corsair Vengenace LP Black 1600MHz CL9.

Most I managed was 4.9GHz as a stable constant overclock, using only '4' cores. No matter what combination of settings using in the BIOS could it ever breach that 5.0Ghz barrier. Most on all '6' cores was 4.5Ghz.

Using this Sabertooth 990FX r2.0, it managed 5.5Ghz first time without any effort, on all '6' cores. And then 2 days later I replaced it with an 8320, so not much experience of overclocking it on a decent board lol

Best method I found was not to just push the multiplier up and leave the FSB alone, no.... increase the FSB to 250Mhz and RAM down to 1666Mhz, then start increasing the multiplier. If you had RAM forced to 1600Mhz on 200Mhz, it will jump up alot when the FSB is set to 250Mhz wink.gif Not all RAM is happy to overclock, even a tiny amount.
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I am in the same boat regarding overclocking the 6100 so I hope it is okey if I post this here instead of making yet another thread, I cannot get it "stable" beyond 4,78ghz, anything over that and it just crashes under heavy load with a blue screen error 0x000101 (dont know how many zeros). I am currently at 1,5v, any lower than that and it crashes. I tried upping the voltage but with no luck still crashes at 4,8-4,9ghz. I have tried different FSB and multipliers but still no luck.

anyone got any advice ?


Reduce the amount of cores being used. Instead of running all 6, disable 5 & 6 so its just a quad core as it will use less power and should be more stable at higher speeds.
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Niloss,

The FX-6100@4.8ghz and 1.5V is ~200W worth of thermal dissipation (or more) just at the chip. It's very possible you are simply at the limits of power and dissipation from your board and HSF, and may even be running into problems with clean power delivery from the PSU at that point. Without more information about your specific setup that's impossible to determine. (case, fans, PSU, motherboard, HSF etc)

If you're monkeying around with the BCLK speed then you may be introducing instability on other buses that it effects (HT, CPU-NB, RAM), so it's always best to down-clock all of those other buses before using the BCLK to overclock with.
     
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Reduce the amount of cores being used. Instead of running all 6, disable 5 & 6 so its just a quad core as it will use less power and should be more stable at higher speeds.

Ok, thanks for the advice I will try that smile.gif


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Niloss,

The FX-6100@4.8ghz and 1.5V is ~200W worth of thermal dissipation (or more) just at the chip. It's very possible you are simply at the limits of power and dissipation from your board and HSF, and may even be running into problems with clean power delivery from the PSU at that point. Without more information about your specific setup that's impossible to determine. (case, fans, PSU, motherboard, HSF etc)

If you're monkeying around with the BCLK speed then you may be introducing instability on other buses that it effects (HT, CPU-NB, RAM), so it's always best to down-clock all of those other buses before using the BCLK to overclock with.

Motherboard : Gigabyte ga-990x ud3 , power supply corsair hx650 (650w) , custom water cooling.

FSB is 245mhz, Ht and cpu-nb speeds are currently 2205mhz (stock 2000mhz) I tried using smaller multipliers to get the speed closer to stock but it made no difference to the stability.

Ram speed is1632mhz and voltage is stock at 1,5v using Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz 1,5v
Edited by Niloss - 4/19/14 at 10:23am
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FSB is 245mhz, Ht and cpu-nb speeds are currently 2205mhz (stock 2000mhz) I tried using smaller multipliers to get the speed closer to stock but it made no difference to the stability.
Stock cpu-nb is 2200mhz and stock HT is 2600mhz on 990 boards. I run both at about 2500mhz.
Try getting the Ht and cpu-nb speeds up. Increasing cpu-nb speeds will help performance. HT speeds determine the available bandwidth to the NB, which needs to be about 2500 - 2600mhz to use all available bandwidth. Above those speeds doesnt really help, even though HT speeds can be clocked very high.

http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/AMD_FX_Performance_Tuning_Guide.pdf

Note in the tuning guide, they run both Ht and cpu-nb at 2600mhz. Even though it wont help with higher cpu mhz, it will make your system a bit snappier.
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Ok, thanks for the advice I will try that smile.gif
Motherboard : Gigabyte ga-990x ud3 , power supply corsair hx650 (650w) , custom water cooling.

FSB is 245mhz, Ht and cpu-nb speeds are currently 2205mhz (stock 2000mhz) I tried using smaller multipliers to get the speed closer to stock but it made no difference to the stability.

Ram speed is1632mhz and voltage is stock at 1,5v using Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz 1,5v


So you're using the 6.66X multiplier for the RAM... Have you manually set ALL timings with that? or is some of that still on Auto or Profiled settings?

Reason I ask it... when you drop from the 8X to 6.66X multiplier, these sophisticated boards will often drop the timings down as well. You might be inadvertantly running like 1600-7-7-7 speeds/timings here, which could cause instability.

Revert to the 8X multiplier so you can write down all of the default timings (ALL OF THEM). Then go switch back to the 6.66X multi and manually force all the timings "loose" back to defaults. OR, give the RAM more voltage to be able to run these tighter timings (1.65V might do it).


Alternatively, you could stop using such high BCLK frequencies. Aside from hitting particular "round" number combinations there's rarely any reason to go beyond 220mhz BCLK. In fact, I would only suggest tinkering with the BCLK as part of a fine-tuning after you have established the limits of the CPU, CPU-NB, and RAM speeds/timings from the standard BCLK speed.
     
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Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
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LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
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logitec M235 
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FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
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Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
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Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
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Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
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yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
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Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
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logitec M235 
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