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You could pick up a used GTX 780 for around 400. That would destroy your 6870 and 2560x1440

Hah, thanks, I've thought of many interim scenarios, buying a used 780 for a few months to hold me out being the best. Waited this long, I'll just keep struggling and wait for the more efficient Maxwell architecture to arrive in whatever form 28 or 20.

My Maximus board, my Max needs a Maxwell, it's a sign from above. tongue.gif
    
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This isn't surprising, I highly doubt they will even do 20nm for their top tier card. I expect them to head straight to 16nm for high end offerings.
They might do 28nm for their top card, same for nvidia. TSMC 20nm is not designed for high performance.
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Not surprised really. This rumor has been floating around for months.
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I guess my SLI 780ti won't be upgraded for a long time.
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We are going to get a new set of 28nm VI;
Maui
Iceland/Topaz
Tonga/Amethyst

Before we see 20nm/14nm PI.

Maui, Iceland/Topaz, Tonga/Amethyst => Volcanic Island Tiles with Pirate Island Instruction set.
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post #26 of 146
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This isn't surprising, I highly doubt they will even do 20nm for their top tier card. I expect them to head straight to 16nm for high end offerings.
They might do 28nm for their top card, same for nvidia. TSMC 20nm is not designed for high performance.

Even that 16nm isn't really a 16nm. There was an article posted recently that was talking about how TSMC is just going to "rehash" (if you will) the 20nm with FinFET.
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The dirty little secret in all of this, of course, is that 16nm FinFET is actually 20nm R&D + FinFET technology bolted on.

SOURCE

Now, I am first to tell you that there is an extreme bit about all of this that I do not know, but I read that article, and there really seemed to be some very believable material to it. If someone here has any input as to why this article is wrong, please do tell.

After seeing as how much of what it talks about seems to be unfolding, I am inclined to believe it.

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post #27 of 146
Not the suprise GPU prices is so high right now.
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That "we are doing 28nm now" might not mean "we ONLY do 28nm now".

Science.
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post #29 of 146
Not surprising, AMD doesn't have much reason to try and rush 20nm when TSM is at full 20nm capacity for Apple and other SoC until at least Q4 of this year. Even though they might have been able to tap GLoFo, they don't need to as they know Nvidia won't be to market soon.
    
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Another journalist manufacturing nonsense. She said "we're doing 28nm now" practically, and he translated it "we will ONLY do 28nm now".
AMD is skipping 20nm LPM for 14nm-LPE(CPA 20nm Bulk FinFETs) and 14nm-FDSOI(CPA 20nm FDSOI).

We will have short 28nm stopgaps, before the transition is over. 14nm FDSOI will reach volume production before 14nm LPE.
Edited by Seronx - 4/18/14 at 2:37pm
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