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Quote:
Originally Posted by fateswarm View Post

That "we are doing 28nm now" might not mean "we ONLY do 28nm now".

Science.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post


The original source is Seeking Alpha, not VideoCardz. One of the better financial news websites. And is a direct transcript of AMD's Q1-2014 Earnings Call.


Here are the quotes from the earnings call regarding 28nm production.

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Christopher Rolland - FBR Capital Markets
Hey guys. Congrats on the quarter and thank you for letting me ask question as well. Can you guys talk about the puts and takes of either moving or perhaps not moving your next-generation follow-on to Kaveri to the next node here and how this might affect your decisions to move other products and families to the next node, or not to move them? Thanks.

Lisa Su - SVP and General Manager of Global Business Units
Sure, Chris. So let me take that and give you a little bit of our thinking.

So in terms of product and technology selection, certainly we need to be at the leading-edge of the technology roadmap. So what we've said in the past is certainly this year all of our products are in 28-nanometer across both, you know, graphics client and our semi-custom business. We are, you know, actively in the design phase for 20-nanometer and that will come to production. And then clearly we'll go to FinFET. So that would be the progression of it.

Relative to the competitiveness of the products, we feel very good about the competitiveness of the products, to vary in terms of total compute, what we're able to do across the stack with our Beema product line and our graphics capability.



David Wong - Wells Fargo
Great. And when will we expect you to introduce GPU products at a node below 28 nanometers? Will have you have any 20-nanometer GPUs this year or next year?

Lisa Su - SVP and General Manager of Global Business Units
David, I think what I said earlier sort of what we're doing in terms of technology strategy, we are 28 this year, we have 20-nanometer in design, and then FinFET thereafter. So that's the overall product portfolio.

David Wong - Wells Fargo
That includes GPUs, Lisa?

Lisa Su - SVP and General Manager of Global Business Units
That's the overall product portfolio, so I'm not being specific about graphics versus other products.

David Wong - Wells Fargo
Okay, great. And my final question, when do you expect to first start generating semi-custom revenues from chips made at Global Foundries? And will moving to Global Foundries for game console chips reduce the cost of the chips or is it a neutral move?

Lisa Su - SVP and General Manager of Global Business Units
Yes. So we will see semi-custom chips from Global Foundries in the second half of this year. And relative to our operating margin guidance on semi-custom, it stays the same. So it's what we've said previously.

David Wong - Wells Fargo
Great. Thank you.

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Lisa Su is about as real it gets when it comes to AMD.
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post #32 of 146
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We are going to get a new set of 28nm VI;
Maui
Iceland/Topaz
Tonga/Amethyst

Before we see 20nm/14nm PI.

Maui, Iceland/Topaz, Tonga/Amethyst => Volcanic Island Tiles with Pirate Island Instruction set.
AMD would call those cards Pirate Islands, since they never stick with the same codename and series name.
Also, source on those codenames?
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AMD would call those cards Pirate Islands, since they never stick with the same codename and series name.
Also, source on those codenames?
http://www.hwinfo.com/txt/History3264.txt
Quote:
Added AMD Volcanic Islands/Crystal: Maui, Iceland/Topaz, Tonga/Amethyst.

KV-B0 / Kaveri 2.0 dual graphics with Crystal series.
Edited by Seronx - 4/18/14 at 2:50pm
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Look. If AMD and NVIDIA don't use 20nm, 20nm will not exist. If 28nm is cost effective for the high end, the medium end has no chance.

Hence the only explanation is that TSMC failed to deliver 20nm and they will only modify it for the 16nm gen since they say it's easy.

But wait, Apple already prints their chips on 20nm. Guys, this is nonsense with vague wording to sell chips in the Summer.
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Look. If AMD and NVIDIA don't use 20nm, 20nm will not exist. If 28nm is cost effective for the high end, the medium end has no chance.

Hence the only explanation is that TSMC failed to deliver 20nm and they will only modify it for the 16nm gen since they say it's easy.

But wait, Apple already prints their chips on 20nm. Guys, this is nonsense with vague wording to sell chips in the Summer.

Lol intel already show cased 14nm. So i dont see why they had trouble with 20nm
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Lol intel already show cased 14nm. So i dont see why they had trouble with 20nm

Hence the third line. It would be nonsense. Mainly because, wait a minute, Apple as we speak at this moment is making A8 chips at TSMC on 20nm.
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Hence the third line. It would be nonsense. Mainly because, wait a minute, Apple as we speak at this moment is making A8 chips at TSMC on 20nm.

I just want them to release some new stuff, sick of all these rebranded cards with OC bios.
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post #38 of 146
Well considering the time gap between HD 7970 and 290X , 2014 was never a year we would see a AMD high end GPU. Same thing goes with Nvidia if you look purely GTX580, GTX 780.
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post #39 of 146
I hope this is not true and just a marketing stunt to sell as many cards as possible...
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Meh. Q1 2015 isn't a long wait, considering the 290X came out in Q4 of 2013. The insane gap between the 7970 and 290X is still leaving a really bad taste in my mouth, though, and the initial release of consumer GK110 over a year ago makes this generation already feel like it's run its course.

I wonder if they'll actually do something for this year though. Is NVIDIA going to put an 880 on 28nm or wait for 20nm? If the former, will AMD respond or just wait six months to put out a 20nm beast?
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ALIENWARE TACTX GAMING MOUSE ALIENWARE MOUSEPAD IT'S DESIGNED FOR GAMING AND... BEATS AUDIO 1337 ALIENWARE TACTX 8-CHANNEL GAMING HEADSET/M... 
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16 CORES!!!! 4GB VRAM!!!! FASTER THAN 3960X + 7... ALIENWARE GAMING CARPET 
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AMD A6-3420M OC 2.2GHz / 3GHz Turbo 1.10625v ASUS A53Z AMD Radeon HD 6520G 6GB DDR3 1333MHz 
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320GB WD Scorpio Black yes. really good Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 
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Fedora GNU/Linux 1366x768 LED-backlit TN panel Decent + numpad ~5hr 6-cell li-ion 
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