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Prices aren't "starting to come back down" they were starting to come back down in February. Right now they are dirt cheap as you can get a used 290 for 300$ or a used 290x for a little over 400$.

The fact remains most retailers are still well above msrp and some manufacturers are still listed at peak prices seen 6 months ago. I wouldn't call an abused mining card a deal at anything less than 50% of retail cost unless you intend to continue mining with it. I am speaking from a gamers perspective.

I'm looking to build a new gaming rig in the near future and I am completely turned off from the AMD side by what I'm seeing on the market.
Edited by The Source - 4/19/14 at 10:11pm
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^^This is why this is irrelevant. AMD,Samsung and GloFo will begin mass producing 14nm FinFet process in 2014,available to be mass produced at all Samsung,GloFo fabs.Finally AMD will match Intel and Nvidia in power consumption and possibly reducing the gap in Intel IPS/TDP in CPU in the future.This is huge. thumb.gif
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^^This is why this is irrelevant. AMD,Samsung and GloFo will begin mass producing 14nm FinFet process in 2014,available to be mass produced at all Samsung,GloFo fabs.Finally AMD will match Intel and Nvidia in power consumption and possibly reducing the gap in Intel IPS/TDP in CPU in the future.This is huge. thumb.gif
You're right AMD plans tap out of 14nm xm silicon in mid/late 2014 but it is a ultra mobile focussed node so they willost likely just go 20nm with finfets for their gpu.

Amd doesn't really have a power problem certainly not when both are on the same node.
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Meh, whatever, my 780 is more than enough for all these ports and mediocre games being released these days. Though I still want a 1440p or 4k g sync monitor and another 780.

I doubt any mainstream system right now can do 4k reliably. Well, it might be able to do strictly recreational gaming but anything competitive.. I won't even go FPS, it's probably bad even for WoW.
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You're right AMD plans tap out of 14nm xm silicon in mid/late 2014 but it is a ultra mobile focussed node so they willost likely just go 20nm with finfets for their gpu.

Amd doesn't really have a power problem certainly not when both are on the same node.
Well AMD's 290x is 20% more inefficient than the 780 ti whilst having about a 20% smaller die area. I'd say they could do better in the power department.
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Well AMD's 290x is 20% more inefficient than the 780 ti whilst having about a 20% smaller die area. I'd say they could do better in the power department.

According to Alatar, GK110 only consumes less power than Hawaii when it's throttling. Just saying. Not that Hawaii is efficient by any measures or anything....
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Do you guys believe this next generation of gpu's(20nm) get us to handling all the big title's in 1440p 60fps. The 780Ti and R290x is very close but not quite there. I'd love to be able to go back to a single gpu. I'm hoping 1440p is the new 1080p and the Sli/Crossfire market is intended for 4k resolutions.
 
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I agree - 1080p still takes some beating with a high end card at max settings thumb.gif
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Sapphire cancelled 8GB version of 290x Vapor-X, could be a sign of 290x refresh coming? I don't think that world's 1st Radeon Vendor is simply having problems with memory supply, they probably reconsidered 8gb buffer for another more exciting product.
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AMD plans tap out of 14nm xm silicon in mid/late 2014 but it is a ultra mobile focussed node so they willost likely just go 20nm with finfets for their gpu.

14nm is 20nm with FinFETs.
     
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