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Thank you, I'm all set for 4670K but after what I read about the dumb TIM and bad temps I had my worries. I love overclocking and after seeing some bad things happen to people who delid their IHS I am seriously worried. I could run it naked and removed the socket clamp altogether but it have it's downside. Why Intel do this? I need K series CPU plus Z87 motherboard for overclocking and they put dumb cheapy TIM to go with it mad.gif

The new haswell (Devil's Canyon) and z97 is coming out soon (June 2nd) with a supposedly improved TIM solution. I would wait for it if I was in your position if you have any interest in overclocking.

Whatever you do, don't buy an AMD processor for a pure gaming system. That would be a mistake.
Edited by Derp - 4/23/14 at 3:07pm
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The new haswell (Devil's Canyon) and z97 is coming out soon (June 2nd) with a supposedly improved TIM solution. I would wait for it if I was in your position if you have any interest in overclocking.

Whatever you do, don't buy an AMD processor for a pure gaming system. That would be a mistake.
I heard about Devil Canyon too, might as well wait for it.

It's not really a mistake buying FX-8320, I just don't like the heat it produces when I start to crank up the voltage that's all.
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Yea the haswell refresh is probably worth holding out for given that you'll see the most benefit in those workloads from improved per-core performance. Who knows, maybe the refresh will push overclocking to ~5ghz territory on haswell (more like Sandy Bridge). That would be a welcome milestone.
     
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I looked at your current rig. For the best gaming performance, DISABLE 2 cores in the bios and clock it as high as you can go using just six cores. You'll probably hit close to 5.0 ghz. Cost: $0, and it won't pose much (if any) bottleneck to your GTX760.
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I looked at your current rig. For the best gaming performance, DISABLE 2 cores in the bios and clock it as high as you can go using just six cores. You'll probably hit close to 5.0 ghz. Cost: $0, and it won't pose much (if any) bottleneck to your GTX760.
I'm trying to do that, but my current HSF unable to cope with the heat. It is stable at 4.7GHz on all 8 core but it's running hot with 1.5V Vcore. I have a pretty melon 8320. At low speed it undervolts beautifully though. 4GHz is stable at 1.275V, 4.2GHz stable at 1.3V. Stock volts 1.375V can go 4.3-4.4GHz.

I done some research, I read that some B85 motherboard actually can overclock the K CPU up to 4.8GHz. Altough I do read Intel locking it down but I found some recent post suggest that this wasn't the case. So if I were to choose 4670K + Z87 or 4770K + overclockable B85 for the same money, which one I should chose?
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The difference in cost between a B85 board that is built well enough to tinker with overclocking, and the entry level Z87 boards that have like DOUBLE the VRMs on em, is often only like 10-20%. I would advise a proper Z87 board, something with ~8 phases worth of VRM or better.


Your FX-8320 is actually fairly normal. Typically the FX-8320 is binned ~0.1V worse than the FX-6300 and FX-8350, which will often run at 4.0ghz </=~1.2V stable. The "stock voltage" of the FX-6300, is as low as ~1.20V from what I have seen.

I usually recommend the FX-6300 over the FX-8320 for a gaming rig, because with equal cooling, the reduced core count combined with the reduced VID will often offer up to 500mhz higher overclocks, which will scale better in most games than having more cores. A higher clocked FX-6300 at a lower implementation cost gives equal or better CPU performance in games, and leaves more budget for the GPU without any downsides. Obviously if you already have an FX-8320, the difference wouldn't be worth the switch, but food for thought regardless.
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Thanks for your opinion mdocod +rep for you, I been browsing around for good cheap Z87 motherboard and I found ASRock Extreme3 with 8 phase power, I believe it would be sufficient enough for things. It is the cheapest thing and no other manufacturer come close to it's spec. I can't buy microATX motherboard because I need extra PCIe x1 for my soundcard, and this mobo got one and it's not obstructing the big Arctic Cooler I fitted on my graphic card.

Well I still have my Sabertooth 990FX which is dead but I haven't got time to RMA it yet. Maybe I could resurrect that. But RMA time is painfully long so I need something in between
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Yea the Extreme3 and Z87 Fata1ty killer are the entry points for "cheap" Z87 boards that aren't too bad. I think I like the killer better because of the nicer onboard sound, but since you're using a discrete sound card then it really won't make much difference.
     
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You've got 6 cores @ 4.7ghz and a single GTX 760? I have a pretty similar setup to yours and no real complaints. Where are you having problems?
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AMD FX-8350 ASUS M5A97 Galaxy GTX670 GC 4 x 4GB Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US (30nm Samsung "Mag... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 830 128GB WD Scorpio Black DVD-RW Phanteks PH-TC14PE 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer with 2x Noctua ... Windows 7 Home Premium Dell 2407WFP (24", 1920x1200) Microsoft Natural 4000 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic X-650 Gold Corsair Obsidian 550D Logitech MX518 Logitech 2.0 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 860 Intel DH55PJ Radeon HD 5770 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Momentus XT 500gb DVD-RW Thermalright Venemous X Windows 8 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
55" LED TV (1080P) Microsoft Wireless Desktop 5000 Corsair 450VX Antec Solo 
MouseAudioOther
Microsoft Wireless Desktop 5000 TV speakers + 3 add-in USB 3.0 ports (2 front, 1 back) 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsHard Drive
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 Unsure Onboard Unknown 160GB EIDE (System drive) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Hitachi 3TB Western Digital 3TB Samsung 2TB Samsung 2TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Unknown 1TB Unknown 1TB Unknown 500GB DVD-RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Coolermaster Hyper TX-3 Windows 8 Professional Unknown 19" LCD Some crappy old Dell keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Antec Earthwatts 380 Cooler Master HAF 912 Some old crappy mouse None 
Other
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Media Center Kit Dual ... 
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