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Please check the 'Current Situation' tab to see what I need help with now.

So, I found a computer in the trash a few days ago, but it has quite a bit of power in it. i7 960, 560Ti... but no drives and no OS. So today I figured I'd grab my spare drive and try to start using Linux on it. That's where I need help. I am completely new to Linux, and maybe by the time we are done with this, we will have a great and easy to follow guide.

Anyway, what I need to do first is get Linux on the spare drive without using a USB drive, or CD/DVD to install the OS. I found something called "Unetbootin" that I guess is going to let me do just that. I first noticed though, that there is many different versions of Linux. I picked 'Ubuntu' since I have seen a lot of talk about that. I just need to know if I will be able to use this to do what I need. If this works, then the next step will be helping me with some software stuff.


Current Situation
Going to close thread since I have Windows on that rig now. (Actually posting this from the new rig)

Edited by AcEsSalvation - 5/9/14 at 7:15am
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post #2 of 58
unetbootin is a good start but anything that can burn an iso is generally ok.

Ubuntu is fine,its a bit quirky and needs some tweaks, personally id stick with Linux Mint to begin with. Ultimately you will end up on Arch Linux


If you want something simple use MATE or XFCE desktops but for something more graphical try Ubuntu Gnome ((with Gnome Tweak Tool adding bits back like minimise on windows))

also elementary os is a really nice distro
post #3 of 58
Greetz and welcome to Linux as well as OCN > Linux Geeks biggrin.gif I'm curious as to why you can't use USB install media, or is it that you don't consider a thumbdrive a "drive" ?
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post #4 of 58
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It's actually a little sad... I don't have any USB drives, and I don't know if the DVD drive in that other computer works. I am willing to try to burn to a CD, but they only hold 700MB. I don't have any DVDs, and I can't get out to pick up a USB drive. I have a spare hard drive and my 650D has a top slot for a 2.5/3.5in drive.

So, which 'type' of Linux should I use? I will have it in the other room as a guest computer to browse, as well as have some games from Steam. I understand that this is a different OS, and not everything will work. I don't mind missing a few things, and this is an attempt at learning something new.

I haven't actually made anyway progress to anything just yet, but I'm dying to get that other computer running (and see which parts are actually still working)
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post #5 of 58
for a modern slick feel..
http://elementaryos.org/

for a modern but more traditional windows feel..
http://zorin-os.com/

for a complete package but still minimal..
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=156

for something like the above but perhaps a whisker less stable..
http://solydxk.com/homeedition/solydk/

for something else look into the "Show your linux thread" and have a look at a few of the desktops. Most if not all come with office software, firefox, email clients and music players along with lots of other useful utilities and graphics programs.

Just a word of caution, i have found Cinnamon to not be stable, this could be my AMD hardware. Zorin uses cinnamon. Stick to Debian/Ubuntu based distros for Steam Compatibility as mentioned above.
post #6 of 58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phill1978 View Post

Just a word of caution, i have found Cinnamon to not be stable, this could be my AMD hardware. Zorin uses cinnamon. Stick to Debian/Ubuntu based distros for Steam Compatibility as mentioned above.
And guess what I just downloaded...

I really don't care about the aesthetics, to be honest. I just want stability, with the ability for browsing and being able to play some games. If Steam and HoN work and FireFox/WaterFox, awesome.

The main thing right now is finding out how to get the right version of Linux on this drive.
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post #7 of 58
You found a rig with an i7 960 and a 560Ti? Nice! thumb.gif


As for how to install Linux, you could get crafty and set up a network install so that it installs from another location on your home network.
    
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post #8 of 58
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Well, I could give it a shot. But here is my situation (and I'll add to first post):

That other computer (I'll call 'Lin' {hehe}) has no HDD. I am having to use a spare drive that was swapped from my friend's old rig because it had a few bad sectors. I am putting this drive into Lin, but before I did, I was wanting to install some Linux onto it. That way when I boot the rig, I'm immediately in Linux. Something is now telling me I cannot do that. I should also mention that this drive is keeping his original copy of W7 on it (prebuilt from store and is still a valid license). I have created a partition to load Linux on to, which I found somewhere that I could do something like this using 'GRUB' and something else.

Anyway, feel free to scream at me for the next few hours... it's time for bed (9:12AM) sleepysmileyanim.gif
I'll be smarter when I wake up, so I'll be able to communicate easier.
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post #9 of 58
Here's a solution for you:

Grab VMWare Workstation and install it.
Grab the installation disk image for whichever distribution.
Create a new virtual machine and select the use Physical Disk option, and then select the use entire disk option. (Not the partition option)
Boot the virtual machine and select the install media you downloaded earlier.
Follow the directions to install that distribution to the partition you added.

Once everything's installed, move the hard drive over to the new machine.
    
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post #10 of 58
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Thanks for another suggestion. I am up now guys, and I bought a new 32GB flash drive. I have to get that other computer put back together, then it's Linux time.
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