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Hi, i'm new here and i will upload an introduction into the new members forum later on.
But, i recently decided to change my thermal paste from the standard that came with the FX-6300 to Artic Silver 5, but i've must have done something considerably wrong since my temps are now higher and that's even when i'm running my processor at a lower volt then normal.
Atm i'm running the FX-6300 at 3800mhz (i have downclocked it to 3000mhz and changed the volt even lower, but that doesn't help my temps very much).
It's running at 53C atm and the only thing i got on is firefox with 3 tabs and core temp, it goes above the safe temp of 62C on the cores, if i'm using prime95. I'm aware of the "burn-in" period of AS5 but the temp is still way too high.
I've gotten some of the thermal paste on the top of my heatsink though and some of the fins, so i'm wondering if that might impact on my temperature redface.gif.
CPU: FX-6300
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Any help would be appreciated smile.gif
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are u using the stock cooler ?
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Hi, i'm new here and i will upload an introduction into the new members forum later on.
But, i recently decided to change my thermal paste from the standard that came with the FX-6300 to Artic Silver 5, but i've must have done something considerably wrong since my temps are now higher and that's even when i'm running my processor at a lower volt then normal.
Atm i'm running the FX-6300 at 3800mhz (i have downclocked it to 3000mhz and changed the volt even lower, but that doesn't help my temps very much).
It's running at 53C atm and the only thing i got on is firefox with 3 tabs and core temp, it goes above the safe temp of 62C on the cores, if i'm using prime95. I'm aware of the "burn-in" period of AS5 but the temp is still way too high.
I've gotten some of the thermal paste on the top of my heatsink though and some of the fins, so i'm wondering if that might impact on my temperature redface.gif.
CPU: FX-6300
MB: Asus, M5A78L-M/USB3.
Any help would be appreciated smile.gif

Pull The heatsink off and clean all the thermal compound off and start over.
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High CPU temps at idle are often because the heatsink is not making good contact with the CPU or if there is to much/to little thermal paste. I'd do as Wirerat says and clean it all off and start again smile.gif Put a small pea sized blob in the centre of the CPU and the pressure from the heatsink will spread it.
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High CPU temps at idle are often because the heatsink is not making good contact with the CPU or if there is to much/to little thermal paste. I'd do as Wirerat says and clean it all off and start again smile.gif Put a small pea sized blob in the centre of the CPU and the pressure from the heatsink will spread it.
+1
AS5 also needs to set in. The best way is to put the CPU under load for a few hours, then let it idle. Do that twice, and you will see some great temperatures.
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What I have done for now 5 CPU applications and 3 GPU applications is this:

Take a ziplock bag, of sandwich size, or some saran wrap.
Squirt some AS5 on the middle of the CPU, a little pea-sized blob.
Cover the tip of your finger with the saran/sandwich bag.
Spread the paste outward, maintaining a modest amount of pressure.
Work slowly, from center out, with slow spreading motion.

Spread until the CPU is covered in a reasonably uniform layer with no big chunks of paste missing. Then carefully attach your CPU cooler or waterblock.

2 reasons I have used this method over the one-blob-in-center method:
1) If your heatsink retention bracket isn't particularly strong, it will not spread out the thicker thermal pastes well, especially AS5 which is pretty viscous/thick.
2) You ensure UNIFORM coverage of the CPU, ensuring contact with the entire width of the CPU's IHS lid.

A lot of people say that you only need thermal paste over the die: This would be correct if the area of the CPU IHS that got hot was ONLY directly over the die. Unfortunately for that reasoning, thermodynamics says that the material copper is a very efficient conductor of heat, hence the reason CPU manufacturers use it to make their CPU lids. The entire width of the cooler pulls heat off of the die. Now will it work both ways? Yes it will. But I believe this spreading method is the best way to ensure a nice even thin layer, with great 100% (or close) heatsink-to-CPU contact.

It has yet to produce erratic temperatures. Now it COULD BE that I am just amazing. But I doubt that very much, because I am actually an idiot so if I can do this 8+ times and it never EVER fail, it must be that the method is just solid.
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Skitz, it's the stock cooler.
Wirerat, i did as you said, i did a complete and intense clean of the heatsink as well as the cpu. smile.gif
Twirlz, i did the blob method as you suggested and i believe it worked, the first time i did the blob method i must have used too much.
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+1
AS5 also needs to set in. The best way is to put the CPU under load for a few hours, then let it idle. Do that twice, and you will see some great temperatures.
Okey, i will follow that advice to the teeth. Don't i have to turn it off as well? I heard some say that you should put the processor under load, then turn it off and let it cool off and then repeat the procedure to get the best result?
hathornd, now you've gotten me worried. The blob method seems to be working at the moment.

Thanks for the help everybody, i can now report that my processors minimum has been at 31C, maximum 58C and it seems to be consistently at 55C(sometimes 54C, 54C atm) during prime95, so that's at full load. So it's at least 7C away from the maximum safe operating temp. smile.gif
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You do not have to turn it off, just let it idle. The whole point is to let it expand, then shrink (repeat) so it fills in all the small imperfections. This will allow the paste to completely fill all the gaps required.
I've also tried spreading paste over the entire IHS, but it only gave me poorer temperatures. The only time I spread paste is on my GPU's heat sink.
You will get different stories all the time over what works best, but I believe that most of the variation is going to come from variations in the method used that will not be able to be replicated by others. someone else spread entire IHS, someone else may use the 'X' trick. The next guy might get a lot of bubbles from the 'X' trick.
The best way to play it safe is to put a small dot in the center, and when you connect the heatsink, twist slightly and slowly while applying the pressure. The turn on the system, and put some stress on the chip to get the temperatures up a little. (Please note that I do not like stress testing - Handbrake aside)


EDIT: Stock cooler? I've only seen small OC's on those (100-200MHz max)
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hello,
check your north bridge voltage please, might be autoing to 1.4v and that will overheat it.
    
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Originally Posted by AcEsSalvation View Post

+1
AS5 also needs to set in. The best way is to put the CPU under load for a few hours, then let it idle. Do that twice, and you will see some great temperatures.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AcEsSalvation View Post

You do not have to turn it off, just let it idle. The whole point is to let it expand, then shrink (repeat) so it fills in all the small imperfections. This will allow the paste to completely fill all the gaps required.
I've also tried spreading paste over the entire IHS, but it only gave me poorer temperatures. The only time I spread paste is on my GPU's heat sink.
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The best way to play it safe is to put a small dot in the center, and when you connect the heatsink, twist slightly and slowly while applying the pressure. The turn on the system, and put some stress on the chip to get the temperatures up a little. (Please note that I do not like stress testing - Handbrake aside)


EDIT: Stock cooler? I've only seen small OC's on those (100-200MHz max)
Ok, i will do that then, good to know why i should let it idle and so forth smile.gif. Why don't you like stress-testing? Ooh, but the turbo boost is 4.1ghz, so i don't know if you can count 3.8ghz as an overclock?? I tried going back to 4.2ghz which i've done before, it actually reached 62C but it stays around 61C, i'm not sure i'm comfortable being that close to the temperature limit though. biggrin.gif. The voltage fluctuates a bit (trying to keep it as low as possible, thus the prime95 all the time). I'm only 23 minutes in though. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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