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for me to get my i7 4770k stable at 4.3ghz I have to use more then 1.3 volts and to get my i7 4770k stable at 4.2ghz I have to use 1.26 volts . is there some people who get worst i7 4770k processors then mine ? and what quality percentile would you say my i7 4770k is in ?

Everything you want to know, all of your questions, even a chart of >100 chips and their overclocks is in the thread that i told you to go to several times wink.gif

I'm using 45x@1.27 (load) vcore or 47x at near 1.4vcore
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@orndorf77 look at this Asus bios guideguide

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?33488-Maximus-VI-Series-UEFI-Guide-for-Overclocking&country=&status=
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That's trash compared to thread i linked
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A very good air cooler is required for voltage levels above 1.15V.

some procs run 1.15v on the stock cooler lol
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That's trash compared to thread i linked

I love the OCN guide BUT the thread I linked is Asus specific and explains every function in the bios which might help orndorf77 understand the OCN guide and his motherboard better.

I see the OCN guide as the main guide and this Asus one as a very useful supplement to the OCN guide for an Asus motherboard. If he truly wants to push his oc to the limit he will need to explore some of those settings and that Asus guide might remove any fears of what does what.
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I love the OCN guide BUT the thread I linked is Asus specific and explains every function in the bios which might help orndorf77 understand the OCN guide and his motherboard better.

Everything you need to know for asus is in the OCN thread, without lots of what would now be called bad information, which is why i prefer pointing people there. It's a bit too cringeworthy for me reading information like that from launch when nobody had any idea what to do with the cpu's
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PLL is not LLC. LLC is load line calibration. PLL is a specific voltage between 2 parts of the cpu, I forgot what its named but increasing PLL can help stabilize a high oc. Usually Asus only has enable as an option but I haven't played with their z87 bios yet.

Here ya go, check this out, one reason I like Asus motherboards, they release great guides for their bios:

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?33488-Maximus-VI-Series-UEFI-Guide-for-Overclocking&country=&status=

Check this out, a lot of definitions of what settings are in their older z68 motherboard, yours will have some new features not in that link so I'm gonna look if I can find one for your mobo, meantime look this over

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?2787-Maximus-IV-GENE-Z-BIOS-Guide-Overclocking&country=&status=
dose raising the LLC raise temperatures ? because in the rog bios there is a option call cpu load line and it goes from level 1 to level 8 and level 8 is 100% and it is good to use because it makes you use less voltage but it also produces more heat. I can get mu cpu stable @ 4.3 ghz using 1.29v but I have to set my cpu load line to level 8 and I makes my cpu temperature the same as if I were to set my voltage to 1.315
    
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Everything you want to know, all of your questions, even a chart of >100 chips and their overclocks is in the thread that i told you to go to several times wink.gif

I'm using 45x@1.27 (load) vcore or 47x at near 1.4vcore
you have a good chip. what store did you buy it from ? I am asking because I want to know if there are stores that have a better reputation then others for having better quality chips . on that link you told me about my chip is the absolute worst out of all of them
Edited by orndorf77 - 4/23/14 at 10:09am
    
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dose raising the LLC raise temperatures ? because in the rog bios there is a option call cpu load line and it goes from level 1 to level 8 and level 8 is 100% and it is good to use because it makes you use less voltage but it also produces more heat. I can get mu cpu stable @ 4.3 ghz using 1.29v but I have to set my cpu load line to level 8 and I makes my cpu temperature the same as if I were to set my voltage to 1.315

LLC shouldn't noticeably affect temperatures
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you have a good chip. what store did you buy it from ? I am asking because I want to know if there are stores that have a better reputation then others for having better quality chips . on that link you told me about my chip is the absolute worst out of all of them

overclockers.co.uk. My chip isn't really special at all, 4.7 below 1.4v is a big struggle.

You should know that almost everyone on that thread read quite a decent amount about Haswell and tweaking etc. Very few just jumped in and adjusted vcore without going through a list of things such as:

setting cache@33x with 1.15v

setting near-max level of llc

adjusting vrin etc

and there is very careful choosing of stability tests.

If after those + some other things as well as discussion and tweaking you're still @4.3@1.3, then your chip is like 200mhz below average. Only 11% of the chips on the chart fail to hit 45 - that's as many at 44 or below as there are at 48 or above. There are quite a lot of people pushing quite hard to get those statistics, though.
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LLC shouldn't noticeably affect temperatures
overclockers.co.uk. My chip isn't really special at all, 4.7 below 1.4v is a big struggle.

You should know that almost everyone on that thread read quite a decent amount about Haswell and tweaking etc. Very few just jumped in and adjusted vcore without going through a list of things such as:

setting cache@33x with 1.15v

setting near-max level of llc

adjusting vrin etc

and there is very careful choosing of stability tests.

If after those + some other things as well as discussion and tweaking you're still @4.3@1.3, then your chip is like 200mhz below average. Only 11% of the chips on the chart fail to hit 45 - that's as many at 44 or below as there are at 48 or above. There are quite a lot of people pushing quite hard to get those statistics, though.
is the llc option you are talking about different then the cpu load line option I am talking about ?
    
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Everything you need to know for asus is in the OCN thread, without lots of what would now be called bad information, which is why i prefer pointing people there. It's a bit too cringeworthy for me reading information like that from launch when nobody had any idea what to do with the cpu's

I'd suggest just viewing the ASUS thread as a better explanation of the bios. Use the ocn thread as your general guide,but for those with ASUS boards that thread is pretty useful. I know there were several specific settings mentioned in the ASUS thread that needed to be disabled that were not mentioned here.
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