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so it is normal for my voltage to be lower in idle and higher at full load ?

It's normal for full load to be 0.02v above what is set in bios, and it's normal for idle to do a bunch of different things including being at bios voltage, depending on your mobo and exact settings in the bios and in windows
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It's normal for full load to be 0.02v above what is set in bios, and it's normal for idle to do a bunch of different things including being at bios voltage, depending on your mobo and exact settings in the bios and in windows

 

Ok, so let me get this straight: if the idle voltage and low-load voltage is always going to be lower than the full-load voltage, then how the hell do we avoid instability while idling or under light loads without resulting in a full-load voltage that's higher than actually needed for full load? It just results in higher temps! What was Intel thinking?!

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See, this is why I can't help you overclock because I don't know Haswell overclocking.

Nobody knows it very well which is why i usually direct people to the community thread with some info like that and lots of discussion potential with peeps who have been there for >10 months, instead of sticking around to ask/answer questions biggrin.gif
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Ok, so let me get this straight: if the idle voltage and low-load voltage is always going to be lower than the full-load voltage, then how the hell do we avoid instability while idling or under light loads without resulting in a full-load voltage that's higher than actually needed for full load?

It'll be at like 1.25-1.27 sometimes if you set 1.25. God knows how it works, some intel integrated voltage regulator magic, they never gave out much info on how or why it does most things. Behavior is a little different when using offset or adaptive voltage, but you have to control those more specifically than Manual and they're harder to use - with Haswell, on many boards, Manual volts allows you to use c-states and clock speed dropping to idle at 0.7v or less, so a massive amount of people use that setting, but some use offset/adaptive
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I called intel yesterday and told them my situation about not being able to get my cpu stable at 4.3ghz using less then 1.3v and they offered me a intel tuning protection plan for $25 would it be worth it for me to buy the plan ?
    
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I called intel yesterday and told them my situation about not being able to get my cpu stable at 4.3ghz using less then 1.3v and they offered me a intel tuning protection plan for $25 would it be worth it for me to buy the plan ?

Not really, that doesn't help you aside from letting you run 1.4v+ which you can't do with ht on anyway

If you do everything properly in terms of ocing and you still can't beat 4.3@1.3 then you just have a bad chip and nothing you can do about it
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Not really, that doesn't help you aside from letting you run 1.4v+ which you can't do with ht on anyway

If you do everything properly in terms of ocing and you still can't beat 4.3@1.3 then you just have a bad chip and nothing you can do about it
am I missing out on much not being able to push my cpu past 4.2ghz ?
    
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am I missing out on much not being able to push my cpu past 4.2ghz ?

 

lol

 

Forgive me for laughing, but you have a 4770K and two 780s in SLI with 16 GB of DDR3-2400 memory. I really don't think that a couple of hundred MHz is going to to make any noticeable difference! Good grief. :)

 

(not to mention that you also have a good solid state drive)

 

So, are you overclocking for performance? Or for fun? What video games are you playing?

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lol

Forgive me for laughing, but you have a 4770K and two 780s in SLI with 16 GB of DDR3-2400 memory. I really don't think that a couple of hundred MHz is going to to make any noticeable difference! Good grief. smile.gif

(not to mention that you also have a good solid state drive)

So, are you overclocking for performance? Or for fun? What video games are you playing?
well now that I tried overclocking it is kind of fun as for gaming I used to play mostly call of duty black ops 2 team death match and now I play mostly call of duty ghosts team death match . what games do you play ? maybe we can play online together
    
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While it's heartbreaking to have a chip that does 4.3@1.3 instead of one that does 4.5@1.3 (more normal) or 4.7+ @1.3, the gap between 4.3 and 4.7 in most tasks is a little under 10% (linear to frequency) so it's unlikely to be a real problem
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While it's heartbreaking to have a chip that does 4.3@1.3 instead of one that does 4.5@1.3 (more normal) or 4.7+ @1.3, the gap between 4.3 and 4.7 in most tasks is a little under 10% (linear to frequency) so it's unlikely to be a real problem
rite now my max temp at 4.2ghz is 77c my average temp is 72c to 75c if I overclock to 4.3ghz my max temp will be 86c but my average temps will be from 78c to 83c it may hit 86c one time. is it worth that temperature increase for 100mhz . what are your temperatures at 4.5GHz ?
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