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Hay! I builded my new pc 2 months ago with the Asus Xonar DSX and i have to say it was the best i ever did =D . And that time i used the Siberia V2 NON USB and now i realized that it isn't Virtual Surround 7.1 so i bought Siberia V2 USB version and now i got a usb sound card with it. And again, now i realized that my sound card is Surround 7.1 ....
My question is, should i use the Steelseries Siberia V2 USB sound card or use my other sound card (that is PCI-E) Asus Xonar DSX?? I'll still use this headset but not the sound card though.

In a simple way: Asus Xonar DSX vs Steelseries Siberia V2 USB (because the usb version came with a sound card).

PS. The USB sound card is of course external 0-0 thumb.gif
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Honestly, with Siberia v2, it won't matter if you plug it into the USB sound card or DSX.

By the way, forget all the 7.1 garbage, stereo headphones are stereo headphones lol. I use my Siberia v2 with the default sound drivers Windows uses through USB and am happy.
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1. That wasn't what i was asking for... Now i know what i would use (almost, because you didn't explain anything 0-0 ) but that still doesn't explain witch one is better. The DSX or USB Sound card...

2. And then your answer would be?? That i wasted 100 dollars on a new headset?! Or that i don't need the sound card (dsx one)??

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Honestly, with Siberia v2, it won't matter if you plug it into the USB sound card or DSX.

By the way, forget all the 7.1 garbage, stereo headphones are stereo headphones lol. I use my Siberia v2 with the default sound drivers Windows uses through USB and am happy.
3. That may be so, but Virtual is difference from true. You may be happy because you don't care about it as much as i do, but guess what. Then i think you should leave this section. Only those who understand nice quality of sound deserves to be here!
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You actually don't need a soundcard for surround virtualization, as Razer Surround does that for free smile.gif. And the DGX certainly has virtual surround: it's called Dolby Headphone.

I'm guessing the DSX is a better DAC/AMP than the Siberia USB thing (which I can't find specs for), and the software you can use it with it (XonarSwitch) is much cleaner/nicer. I'd use the DSX.

Be sure to install the community UNI Xonar drivers, XonarSwitch, and Razer Surround if you do go with the Xonar. You could install Dolby Home Theatre if you want to as well.

EDIT: And check out the Xonar club! biggrin.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1445149/official-asus-xonar-and-essence-sound-card-club
Edited by brucethemoose - 4/20/14 at 7:43am
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Actually, before you jump to either one, you should compare the virtual surround software and see which one you like. Try using Razer Surround on the Xonar, try Dolby Headphone, then try whatever the Siberia comes with and see which you like best.

I figured out the Siberia soundcard just uses Dolby Headphone, which is nothing special.
Edited by brucethemoose - 4/20/14 at 9:54am
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Quote:
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You actually don't need a soundcard for surround virtualization, as Razer Surround does that for free smile.gif. And the DGX certainly has virtual surround: it's called Dolby Headphone.

I'm guessing the DSX is a better DAC/AMP than the Siberia USB thing (which I can't find specs for), and the software you can use it with it (XonarSwitch) is much cleaner/nicer. I'd use the DSX.

Be sure to install the community UNI Xonar drivers, XonarSwitch, and Razer Surround if you do go with the Xonar. You could install Dolby Home Theatre if you want to as well.

EDIT: And check out the Xonar club! biggrin.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1445149/official-asus-xonar-and-essence-sound-card-club

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Originally Posted by brucethemoose View Post

Actually, before you jump to either one, you should compare the virtual surround software and see which one you like. Try using Razer Surround on the Xonar, try Dolby Headphone, then try whatever the Siberia comes with and see which you like best.
Ok, thank you! biggrin.gif I'll go with Dsx then. But then i wasted 100 dollars then <:/ . How do i install dolby home theatre (v4)?

EDIT: Nvm, i found the download link on the xonar club page, ty =D (i saw you there aswell =D )
Edited by Killerlinez - 4/20/14 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by brucethemoose View Post

You actually don't need a soundcard for surround virtualization, as Razer Surround does that for free smile.gif. And the DGX certainly has virtual surround: it's called Dolby Headphone.

I'm guessing the DSX is a better DAC/AMP than the Siberia USB thing (which I can't find specs for), and the software you can use it with it (XonarSwitch) is much cleaner/nicer. I'd use the DSX.

Be sure to install the community UNI Xonar drivers, XonarSwitch, and Razer Surround if you do go with the Xonar. You could install Dolby Home Theatre if you want to as well.

EDIT: And check out the Xonar club! biggrin.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1445149/official-asus-xonar-and-essence-sound-card-club

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Originally Posted by brucethemoose View Post

Actually, before you jump to either one, you should compare the virtual surround software and see which one you like. Try using Razer Surround on the Xonar, try Dolby Headphone, then try whatever the Siberia comes with and see which you like best.
Ok, thank you! biggrin.gif I'll go with Dsx then. But then i wasted 100 dollars then <:/ . How do i install dolby home theatre (v4)?

FYI I figured out the Siberia soundcard just uses Dolby Headphone, which is nothing special.




DHT isn't that useful really, as it only works with 2 channels (though it should work in games if you use Razer Surround). Sometimes I use the dynamic equalizer or the voice crystallizer, but I rarely turn it on.


To install everything properly, first download the latest UNI Xonar drivers.
http://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B_LiLEPf2Ii3Q3BJZkZEa2k5UWM

Download Dolby Home Theatre if you want it
DHT
And make sure it's in the same folder as the UNI-Xonar installer. When you start the Xonar driver install, it should give you the option of adding in DHT. Follow the instructions.

Next, download/install XonarSwitch
XonarSwitch



It should automatically disable the default Asus application from starting up, just close/disable it if it doesn't. Set it to 16 bit/44.1khz output in the "real time settings", enable any other effects you want but leave Dolby Headphone off.


Finally, download Razer Surround.

http://www.razerzone.com/surround




Set your Xonar to 2 channel input with XonarSwitch, then install it. Configure it for stereo headphones, and disable ALL the extra effects (Bass Booster, Stereo Enhancement etc.) as they're trash. Make sure the "Enable Virtual Audio Device" checkbox is checked, and you're done!





If you prefer Dolby Headphone over Razer Surround (Razer Surround is clearer and more accurate IMHO, but that's just my preference), uncheck the ""Enable Virtual Audio Device" checkbox, and switch to 8 channel input in XonarSwitch.



EDIT: Added images biggrin.gif
Edited by brucethemoose - 4/20/14 at 10:05am
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Ok, thanks for everything!! =D

Just a last question? I've got 2 headsets, Siberia v2 3.5mm and USB one. Which one should i use? Does it even matter? And when i remove the "extra" cable (the one that makes it 7.1 surround) and just put in the 3.5mm it doesn't work but the other Siberia (3.5mm) works without any cable 0_0 ... Please help!!

EDIT: So Razer Surround is better then Dolby home theater? Then i should go with Razer Surround because that uses 8 channels?

PS. Is TRUE surround when you have speakers from every direction in your room? And virtual surround when you use like Razer surround software?

EDIT 2: I fixed the headset. Which means both Siberia works now =)

EDIT 3: Here are the Siberia v2 specs! Both 3.5mm and USB version is there, just scroll down for the USB version.
http://www.engadget.com/products/steelseries/siberia/v2/specs/
Edited by Killerlinez - 4/20/14 at 10:51am
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I saw that spec page, but it doesn't say anything about what DAC is used, no picture of the PCB, no objective measurements/graphs... That's usually a bad sign, so I'll just assume the Xonar is better biggrin.gif. You should use the 3.5mm headset. Also, I won't criticize the quality of the Siberias, but there might be better headphones for the money tongue.gif

IMHO, Razer Surround is better than Dolby Headphone. "Dolby Home Theatre" is just a fancy equalizer, and doesn't have anything to do with surround sound, you should probably forget I mentioned it.

Yes, that's exactly what true/virtual surround is. Human ears pick up on positional cues when sound waves reach the left ear before the right, or vice versa. This is a major problem with headphones, as sound is isolated to each ear. Razer Surround/Dolby Headphone fix this by simulating speakers, hence the term "virtual" surround.
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Ok, thanks for everything! Really needed it! Now i just gotta follow your "tutorial" and i'm done! Thanks! thumb.gifbiggrin.gif
Oh, and btw, when i install the Xonar drivers, what should i choose? Normal, Low DPC Latency C-Media Panel (GX enabled)?
I've read that Low DPC uses less memory and boots your pc faster!
Edited by Killerlinez - 4/20/14 at 11:33am
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