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Originally Posted by ffejrxx View Post

cpu world benches are skewed tward amd, the intel builds always have half the ram, at a lower speed

Yeah I wouldn't put my trust in them or many other sites. Better to bench it yourself smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Justinbaileyman View Post

Oh yeah?? Prove it!! do you have both rigs set up running to show bench marks??{content removed}

I'm sitting in a room with an A10-6800K (same CPU as a 760K, with an iGPU), an FX-6300, and an i5-4670K.

A non-hyperthreaded haswell core has the same compute performance per clock as an entire piledriver module. I'm not going to waste my time organizing a series of benchmarks to placate to you. If you did ANY research you would know this.


Research to-do-list for the Superior Justinbaileyman:

Familiarize yourself with the concept of Out-Of-Order execution and it's impact on CPU architecture utilization. Then, go answer the following questions for yourself:

How many ALUs in a haswell core? How many ALUs in a PileDriver core?
How many FPUs in a haswell core? How many FPUs in a Piledriver core?
How are these resources arranged in each architecture? Tip: Both use resource sharing, can you explain how they differ?
How many steps in a haswell execution pipeline? How many steps in a Piledrier execution pipeline?
What's the L1, L2, and L3 bandwidth and latency of a haswell core? PD core?
What is the fetch rate of a PileDriver module? A haswell core?
How many instructions per cycle can a haswell core work on at the same time? How about a piledriver module?
What sort of execution penalties do each of these architectures suffer; from instruction prefixes? misalignments? FPU latency? Branch misprediction? denormals?

When you have the answers to the above and understand what they mean, you won't even need a benchmark. I would tell you the answers to these questions, but you have already decided that I am your inferior, so you're not going to listen to me. You go do your own homework on the matter.
     
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post #53 of 57
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Originally Posted by damric View Post

I would think the i5-750 could brute force most apps faster than the athlon, though it likely would lose when newer instructions are used like AVX.
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damric should be able to tell you how fast it is.

I think he runs his at 4.5ghz 24/7 and can bench at 5ghz.

I'd love to see what he gets in HWBOT Prime.



Why are we comparing the 760K to a four year old, long obsolete I5? That a processor that old is still mostly beating the 760K just shows Intel is far ahead.
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Oh yeah?? Prove it!! do you have both rigs set up running to show bench marks??{content removed}

You don't realize how knowledgable mdocod is do you? You should try reading and stop insulting people.
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Originally Posted by Yorkston View Post

I think we have an XBL escapee.

While mdocod is indeed a rabid AMD-basher, he is right on this one. The 760k is in competition with the i3s, not the i5s. The competition for the locked i5s would be an overclocked FX-6300 or stock FX-8320.


If you read all his posts he never bashes AMD. He is very unbiased. He always gives detailed analysis in his posts. And he does recommend AMD processors at certain price points and taking into account what is expected from the system.
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While mdocod is indeed a rabid AMD-basher,

I'd like to think I'm an equal opportunity CPU-basher. There are cases where Intel CPUs are a really poor value choice for specific situations. The reality is that, Intel has a product line that offers better all around performance for the money for about 80% of conditions and budgets. Only the remaining ~20% of scenarios is there an AMD solution that makes sense. This isn't MY FAULT, I'm just the messenger wink.gif I "appear" to be an AMD basher because "80%" of the time I see Intel as having a product that is better suited to the task. I like helping people pick out the best hardware for their intended use. Most people setting out to build an AMD rig today are doing under false pretenses.

If it would make ya feel any better, I can do Intel-bashing as well. Lets talk about the wonderful value E3-1285LV3 wink.gif Only ~$800. What's up with that?
     
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i agree with mdocod

for a budget video encoding machine, go amd 6-8000

for a cheap gaming machine, intel has the low end with pentium g and i3

for the price of an fm2 cpu/mobo, you can get an i3/w b81 mobo
if using a dedicated gpu i3 will be much better
if your going to use the amd apu, you could be better off with a pentium g /w a 7750 or $70-90 gpu

mid gaming with high i3/low i5
high gaming mid-high i5/i7
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