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Hey all, I'm in need of some input regarding my situation and if anyone can recommend a laptop or mini-itx system. My budget is looking to be $3,000+- for either system, accounting for buying a 24 inch monitor and peripherals like a headset with the mini-itx.

My reason being for that form factor is that I'm active duty army in AIT right now and it needs to fit in my wall locker at night. Weight isn't an issue, the dimensions are, so itd be portable enough either way. I plan on heavy gaming with modern stuff and video editing among general use. I might want to try out 3D gaming too and get a 120hz+ monitor and buy Nvidia 3D vision separately. Though if a laptop could do it natively, I'd be interested if I have to throw in extra.

Oh and if anyone knows of decent wifi antennas or adapters it would be much appreciated since the current barracks lack a usable wired connection.

Any help at all would be greatly welcomed though!
post #2 of 15
Go ITX with a silverstone RVZ01. You can stick a 780 Ti in there without much trouble. There are many ITX boards with built in wifi.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_IMPACT/ for example.

If you can have an external display a well configured ITX system will ALWAYS outperform a similarly priced laptop.
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Go ITX with a silverstone RVZ01. You can stick a 780 Ti in there without much trouble. There are many ITX boards with built in wifi.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_IMPACT/ for example.

If you can have an external display a well configured ITX system will ALWAYS outperform a similarly priced laptop.

That one looks pretty interesting! It can fit a 780 Ti though? Any recommendations for models?

For CPU I'm thinking of deciding between the i7 4770k or the i5 4670k. I kinda want to look into an aftermarket CPU cooler but with the small form factor, im not sure what would fit easily.

Oh and any PSU recommendations? I'd like to go fully modular if possible.
post #4 of 15
The RVZ01 uses a SFX form factor of PSU. Currently the largest capacity is 450w, but I think silverstone is working on a 550w.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256084

For CPU coolers, I think the NH-L12 is a popular choice.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608025

Here's the owners club, there's a lot of info there.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1466816/silverstone-raven-rvz01-ml07-owners-club/0_30

If you plan on video editing the i7 is the best CPU choice.
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It's really up to you what you want. For $3000, a high end laptop will play everything at maxed just like a high end ITX build. Do you want to have to throw your computer and monitor into a locker every night or would a laptop be easier? IMHO, if you're really on the go like that I'd go for a laptop. A razer laptop or a macbook pro retina would probably suit your needs pretty well.
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Macbook pro is pretty underwhelming in performance... Either way, if you don't need to spend 3k, don't...

I think you could put a 780 ti in an RVZ01, power might be a bit of a problem, but people have 780 in those, so I don't think that it would have trouble handling a Ti.
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Just because you need the portability and space, I'd highly recommend checking out Clevo's notebooks. It will be more expensive than its M-ITX counterpart, but it's definitely worth the price difference. Many of their notebooks come with the option to upgrade the monitor to a 120Hz 3-D 1920x1080 17.3".

My first choice would be a Clevo P370SM3. XoticPC usually has some of the best prices, their customer support is excellent, and it's easy to extend your warranty through them.
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9377s-clevo-p377sma-eta-april-p-6981.html?wconfigure=yes

I had an M-ITX system, and I sold it so I could buy a P370EM.
If you don't need the option of 2 GPU's, they have other choices as well. A GTX 880m is a powerful card.
    
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I can't speak for video editing, but honestly, unless I have anti-aliasing jacked up (really not needed with a 17" 1080p screen) on my MSi GT70's GTX770M, I have no issues with frame rate playing games like Diablo 3, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Bad Company 2, Far Cry 3, Borderlands 2. I can't speak for brand new AAA titles though. Pulling out an itx rig, connecting everything up to it... just sounds cumbersome to me versus pulling out my laptop, power supply, and wireless mouse and getting to it.

I think your decision is going to weigh in on video editing versus gaming capability. Unless you HAVE to have 1080p or higher resolution with 3D and maxed out anti-aliasing, a laptop with a 770/780M or 870/880M single card will run damn near anything. Throw down the money for SLI, and it's no issue. Just give it some thought on what you REALLY want. Trust me on that, that is what will count the most. I "downgraded" from a beastly I5-3570K running 4.7ghz, 16gb ram, GTX 670 machine to my "gimped" I7-4700MQ, 16gb ram, GTX 770M laptop and honestly, I couldn't be happier. Just make sure either route you go, throw in a 128gb to 256gb SSD for your OS at the least.
post #9 of 15
My friend has a Sager 9170 with a 680M.

I've used it a bit, and it seems like a good laptop, the GPU overclocks pretty nicely. He said XoticPC is a pretty reliable too, I'd suggest ordering from them for a laptop.

I'd suggest a 4800MQ and 880m on one of those, it will give you performance pretty close to a desktop 770.

I think you should see the options you have and then decide, the ITX system will be far more powerful than the laptop for the same price, but quite a lot less portable, especially considering you need a monitor.
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Wouldn't The Strider Plus Series 140mm psus fit in that case?
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