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My first loop: Need some help and advice

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I'm new to making water cooling loops, and I could use some help and advice. I need help figuring out what parts to get, what I need and which brands to go for.
I'm of course planning an build and I've made a list of the parts that I think I need, please tell me if something is not compatible or if i'm missing something. I have read some beginners guides and done some research, but I still have some questions.

The reasons I want water cooling:
  1. Overclocking capabilities
  2. Silence
  3. Good looking
The case I will be building my loop in is an LD PC-V8 ATX/HPTX Black [Link].


Thinking of getting:
  • 2x Rad: Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 480mm [Link]
  • Pump: Swiftech MCP655 With a speed controller [Link]
  • CPU Block: EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ - Full Nickel [Link]
  • 2x GPU Block: EK-FC780 GTX Ti - Acetal+Nickel [Link]
  • 2x GPU Backplate: EK-FC780 GTX Ti Backplate - Black [Link]
  • Reservoir: EK-RES X3 250 [Link]
  • 8x Fans: Corsair SP120 PWM High Pre. Edt. 120mm [Link]
  • Fittings: Bitspower Compression [Link]
  • Tubing: 3/8 ID - XSPC, Primochill or maybe Tygon (Probably R-3603)
  • Liquid: Mayhems X1- Clear 250ml [Link]


Some Questions I have:
  1. One problem I have is that since I live in Norway there isn't exactly a big market on water cooling parts for computers and the little we have is really expensive anyway. So, I'm going to order parts from other countries.
    So, where do you order your parts from? Retailers or from the producer? Any retailing companies you would recommend, based on your own experiences.
  2. I would like to have both rads in the bottom. Which leaves me with 4 cm of free space between both rads with the fans in push or pull (210mm - 120mm - 50mm = 40mm). The reason why I picked that radiator was because a few reviews said it was pretty good, works well with slow fans, that it's newbie friendlty because you can't damage the fins with the screws and It was the biggest i could fit if I go for two rads in the bottom. I'm going to cool both the GPUs and the CPU with water and overclock them. So would those two rads do the trick?
    If I need another in the top I only have 95mm of free space before it interferes with the mobo.
  3. About the pump, I don't think I need more pumps because MCP655 is a D5 variant. And D5 pumps are pretty strong, it comes with a speed controller which good... I think. Don't really know how that works.
    Think I'm going to get a fan controller too, but I don't know if I can connect the pump to that, maybe you can enlighten me?
  4. I've heard some pumps dump the heat generated from them back into the loop, does this pump do that, if so could you recommend another one?
  5. I'm really wondering about fittings, nobody seems to sell a package of fittings. So, I have absolutely any clue of what type of fittings I need or how many. I assume those compression fittings will fit pretty much everywhere, and it really is just a question where I want to direct my tubes.
  6. Not sure if I want to go for tubing or pipes. After I saw @Jameswalt1's "ROBOCOP" build. The thing I'm concerned about when it comes to Acrylic Tubing is that it's hard to bend (for rookies anyway) since you need special tools and heat the pipe up. I think there's too much room for mistakes, bending pipes. But since he used fittings instead of bending the pipe, pipe bending won't be an issue. And if it's easy to make clean cuts in Acrylic Tubing, I would strongly consider Acrylic over normal tubes.
    If there's anything else I should note with Acrylic Tubing, do tell.

Edited by Voyius - 4/20/14 at 12:55pm
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1. Were in the same boat ^^ I too had to order from several countries to get the parts that i wanted. Some norwegian stores that carry watercooling stuff is techbay.no and digital-impuls.no. coolerkit.dk is located in copenhagen denmark, they ship to norway(they have a store located in gotenborg sweeden as well, coolerkit.se). If you still cant find what you want you have to check out stores in GB or the US(make sure to check their customer feedback before ordering).

2. The alphacool radiators are good allround performers. They are 100% copper as oposed to many others that use brass in their radiators(copper has better heat transfer). If you plan on stacking radiators; it is not ideal as you will be dumping the heat from the first radiator into the second.

3. D5 pumps is the most commonly used pumps, with good reason. They are as you said strong and they are the most reliable. 1 should be plenty for a system like the one you are planning.

4. Pumps generate some heat, because the water flows through the pumps they do introduce some heat to your loop, but you should not worry about this really. The D5 has a lower operating temp than the DDC pumps.

5. Fittngs... most manufacturers sell them individually so you will have to plan out your loop and order the right amount and types of fittings(tip, get a few more than you think you will need). There are so many different fittings its difficult to go over them all. The things you want to look at is the threading(G1/4"), inner tubing diameter("ID") and, if youre going with comression fittings, outer diammeter("OD"). Then there is angled fittings that sometimes is needed in order to get the tubing to go where you want it without kinking the tubing, the most common are 90 and 45degree angled fittings. Adapters may be nessesary in some cases(male-to-male adapters for instanse has threads in both ends, can be used to put a reservoir directly on top of a pump for instance).

6. read this thread; link
Edited by zoid.srg - 4/20/14 at 1:40pm
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Thanks for the reply @zoid.srg! I'll read that pipebending guide, hope it's useful. I'm probably going to change where I'll place my rads. Thanks for the info on the fittings, that's going to be really useful. smile.gif
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