Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › Advice on this build
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Advice on this build - Page 2

post #11 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by skeamz View Post

Nice build for the motherboard look at M5A97 evo or even better the M5A99x. And also never skimp on the power supply look for a gold certified. Corsair makes good power supplies.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

80 plus has zero to do with quality you can find junk thats gold rated, so that is not good advice to give
Seravee
(27 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD60EZRX  WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S Windows 7 64 Bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone EMP Roccat Sense Metor Sennheiser HD 598 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Onkyo TX NR646  Dali Opticon Vokal x2 Dali Opticon 2 x2 Dali Opticon 1 
AudioOtherOther
Dali E12 F Subwoofer CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
  hide details  
Reply
Seravee
(27 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD60EZRX  WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S Windows 7 64 Bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone EMP Roccat Sense Metor Sennheiser HD 598 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Onkyo TX NR646  Dali Opticon Vokal x2 Dali Opticon 2 x2 Dali Opticon 1 
AudioOtherOther
Dali E12 F Subwoofer CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilka View Post

80 plus has zero to do with quality you can find junk thats gold rated, so that is not good advice to give

Exactly. I can find a boat load of garbage PSU's that are 80+ gold rated. The rating only tells you how efficient it is under a center load conditions. Don't skimp on what's powering your machine.
Kylo RED
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 1600X 6c/12t MSI B350 Tomahawk PNY GTX 980 Reference Gskill Ripjaws 2x8GB DDR4 2800mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 pro 128GB  Seagate 3TB HDD Custom Water Cooled Loop [Apogee XL, D5 Pump, E... Deepcool RF RGB 120MM Fans x6 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 27" Qnix QX2710 Evolution II 2560x1440 Corsair K70 MX Red SeaSonic X Series 760w 80plus Gold 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Fractal Design Define S Corsair Glaive Corsair MM200 XL Plantronics RIG 500HD 7.1 SURROUND 
  hide details  
Reply
Kylo RED
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 1600X 6c/12t MSI B350 Tomahawk PNY GTX 980 Reference Gskill Ripjaws 2x8GB DDR4 2800mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 pro 128GB  Seagate 3TB HDD Custom Water Cooled Loop [Apogee XL, D5 Pump, E... Deepcool RF RGB 120MM Fans x6 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 27" Qnix QX2710 Evolution II 2560x1440 Corsair K70 MX Red SeaSonic X Series 760w 80plus Gold 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Fractal Design Define S Corsair Glaive Corsair MM200 XL Plantronics RIG 500HD 7.1 SURROUND 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by NexusRed View Post

Exactly. I can find a boat load of garbage PSU's that are 80+ gold rated. The rating only tells you how efficient it is under a center load conditions. Don't skimp on what's powering your machine.

The Raidmax AE and EVGA SuperNova NEX is what come to mind when i say gold rated junk and the Corsair CS is just above
Seravee
(27 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD60EZRX  WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S Windows 7 64 Bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone EMP Roccat Sense Metor Sennheiser HD 598 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Onkyo TX NR646  Dali Opticon Vokal x2 Dali Opticon 2 x2 Dali Opticon 1 
AudioOtherOther
Dali E12 F Subwoofer CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
  hide details  
Reply
Seravee
(27 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD60EZRX  WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  Seagate Ironwolf Pro 10 TB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S Windows 7 64 Bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone EMP Roccat Sense Metor Sennheiser HD 598 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Onkyo TX NR646  Dali Opticon Vokal x2 Dali Opticon 2 x2 Dali Opticon 1 
AudioOtherOther
Dali E12 F Subwoofer CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
Does anyone know if the fx-8350 is compatible with the motherboard i have got now and everything else
Edited by Kierann - 4/21/14 at 8:57am
post #15 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kierann View Post

Does anyone know if the fx-8350 is compatible with the motherboard i have got now and everything else

Yes it is.
Kylo RED
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 1600X 6c/12t MSI B350 Tomahawk PNY GTX 980 Reference Gskill Ripjaws 2x8GB DDR4 2800mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 pro 128GB  Seagate 3TB HDD Custom Water Cooled Loop [Apogee XL, D5 Pump, E... Deepcool RF RGB 120MM Fans x6 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 27" Qnix QX2710 Evolution II 2560x1440 Corsair K70 MX Red SeaSonic X Series 760w 80plus Gold 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Fractal Design Define S Corsair Glaive Corsair MM200 XL Plantronics RIG 500HD 7.1 SURROUND 
  hide details  
Reply
Kylo RED
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 1600X 6c/12t MSI B350 Tomahawk PNY GTX 980 Reference Gskill Ripjaws 2x8GB DDR4 2800mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 pro 128GB  Seagate 3TB HDD Custom Water Cooled Loop [Apogee XL, D5 Pump, E... Deepcool RF RGB 120MM Fans x6 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 27" Qnix QX2710 Evolution II 2560x1440 Corsair K70 MX Red SeaSonic X Series 760w 80plus Gold 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Fractal Design Define S Corsair Glaive Corsair MM200 XL Plantronics RIG 500HD 7.1 SURROUND 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kierann View Post

Does anyone know if the fx-8350 is compatible with the motherboard i have got now and everything else
yes but for overclocking the mobo I said is way better
Wanted: [WTB] GPU upgrade
$210 (USD) or best offer
  
Reply
Wanted: [WTB] GPU upgrade
$210 (USD) or best offer
  
Reply
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
Last question will this run DayZ fine as ive seen people say they get low fps
post #18 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kierann View Post

Last question will this run DayZ fine as ive seen people say they get low fps
See this I read that dayz standalone is based on this graphics engine


Edited by PontiacGTX - 4/22/14 at 5:38am
Wanted: [WTB] GPU upgrade
$210 (USD) or best offer
  
Reply
Wanted: [WTB] GPU upgrade
$210 (USD) or best offer
  
Reply
post #19 of 19
Arma games run poorly on AMD CPUs due to the very poor per-core performance. Get an i5-4670K if you want to play Arma series and Arma Mods.

In fact, most CPU intensive games run poorly on AMD CPUs unless they are clocked very high, and even then, they are often still performing worse than alternatives from Intel. There was a time when these roles were reversed, when low clocked inexpensive and compute efficient AMD chips were spanking Pentium 4's. Those days are long gone. A gap in per-core performance and compute efficiency has been steadily widening since Intel's core architecture. AMD has suffered a number of set-backs and delays in CPU design in the last decade, which has put them behind the curve by about 4 years compared to where Intel is at in terms of CPU architecture refinement and compute efficiency.


Real-time workloads like game-engines scale up performance proportionally with core performance, not with core count. The scaling limitation in most game engines drops off rapidly above 2-4 cores.

A single non-hyper-threaded Haswell core, has the compute performance of an entire PileDriver module (2 cores) combined. What this means, is up to 80% higher minimum FPS on the i5 vs FX-8320 in games like Arma/Dayz when running equal clock speeds.


Try not to get "performance" and "visual quality" mixed up. Performance, is measured in FPS and effects how well you can play the game. "visual quality" is adjustable, and effects how the game looks. High visual quality settings like more resolution, more detail level, more post processing, will shift the performance bottleneck to the GPU. High unit counts and high AI loads and large numbers of draw calls will shift the bottleneck to the CPU (often in ways that can not be scaled out to many cores).

As a user, you have control over the settings that effect where the GPU bottleneck will occur. If you want 60FPS, you can have 60FPS on most GPUs by adjusting the visual quality. However, as a user, the only control you have over adjusting where the CPU bottleneck will occur, is to change what games you play and how you play them. There is no "performance vs quality" slider of any significance in most games engines to effect how CPU intensive things are. You either have enough CPU strength to get the performance you want, or you don't. You can overclock to help alleviate a problem, and that is sometimes an acceptable solution, but you should always compare the cost of overclocking vs what sort of performance an alternative CPU choice may offer.

For 1080P gaming, you'll be much happier with an i5-4670K + GTX760 than you will be with an FX-8320 + GTX770 if you play CPU intensive games.


The internet is filled with AMD enthusiasts who will go to great lengths to sweep the current performance deficit of AMD CPUs in real-time workloads under the rug of GPU bottlenecks and benchmarks that don't show real world game-play conditions. Yes there are long lists of games that play perfectly fine on FX CPUs because they simply aren't that demanding on the CPU. Those long lists of games that run fine regardless of CPU choice are often used as ammunition to defend the AMD CPU. All the benchmarks in the world showing great performance in those games on FX chips won't help you if you don't play those games.
Edited by mdocod - 4/22/14 at 4:04am
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
  hide details  
Reply
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD - General
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD - General › Advice on this build